Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:00 pm
Roy Haggerty wrote:
First thing any A-level history student learns is never to use the term "the people" to describe an opinion. There's no such thing. "The people" have never been united on anything, and when politicians talk of the verdict of "the people", all they're doing is trying to silence opposition (or they were too thick to do A Level history!). 17m voted Leave. 16m voted Remain. 30m didn't vote because they either couldn't, or chose not to. There may be some out there who think "The British People" are just 17m strong, and the other 46m disappeared on 23rd June, but they're probably far-right newspaper demagogues.
Secondly, I've heard this guff about a revolt if Brexit isn't carried out several times. It's nonsense. And the reason it's nonsense is that there's a huge misrepresentation in the press leading to a popular myth arising that Brexit supporters were the "left-behinds": working-age, working-class people of the sort found on endless vox-pops on news programmes. Problem is, it's garbage. The majority of Brexit supporters were pensioners and Tories. They aren't going to express their outrage on the streets - after all, it's hard to take on a police horse with a zimmer frame. They get their far-right mouthpieces like the Express, Mail and Sun to do it for them. Most working people voted Remain, and the younger you were, the more likely you were to vote Remain. So if (and this won't happen, sadly, because our polticians are cowardly gets) Parliament now refused to invoke Article 50, thereby doing its job and saving the country from self-harm, I would personally volunteer to police any demo, if only for the opportunity of kicking the stick away from some clueless Tory pensioner who thinks it's still 1954.
Secondly, I've heard this guff about a revolt if Brexit isn't carried out several times. It's nonsense. And the reason it's nonsense is that there's a huge misrepresentation in the press leading to a popular myth arising that Brexit supporters were the "left-behinds": working-age, working-class people of the sort found on endless vox-pops on news programmes. Problem is, it's garbage. The majority of Brexit supporters were pensioners and Tories. They aren't going to express their outrage on the streets - after all, it's hard to take on a police horse with a zimmer frame. They get their far-right mouthpieces like the Express, Mail and Sun to do it for them. Most working people voted Remain, and the younger you were, the more likely you were to vote Remain. So if (and this won't happen, sadly, because our polticians are cowardly gets) Parliament now refused to invoke Article 50, thereby doing its job and saving the country from self-harm, I would personally volunteer to police any demo, if only for the opportunity of kicking the stick away from some clueless Tory pensioner who thinks it's still 1954.
I must fall into the too thick brigade
I agree that there will be no rioting on the street or, that its very, very unlikely.
Those that didn't bother to vote get what they deserve (in either direction) but, the rest of us should accept the result, much as it pains to do so.
It's still staggering just how poor the planning seems to be for life outside the EU.
I dont think that Parliment has refused to invoke article 50, indeed, they have said that this will happen in March 2018.
Whether this will still be possible, in light of the legal stuff, remains to be seen.
There is still plenty of water to flow under the proverbial bridge before we move outside the EU and the Country's future, far from being secure, now that we have "taken back control", seems as uncertain as ever.
Not since the war, have we been in such a mess but at least then, we had direction and a collective desire for a better future.
