Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 10:50 am  

Chief Stinkwort wrote:

Perhaps because with the exception of one or two bigots, the majority of posters seem (rightly imo) to be vehement in their opposition to homophobia, and are unprepared to allow others to spout their prejudice unchallenged.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 10:59 am  

Chief Stinkwort wrote:

Perhaps because with the exception of one or two bigots, the majority of posters seem (rightly imo) to be vehement in their opposition to homophobia, and are unprepared to allow others to spout their prejudice unchallenged.

Indeed, I never challenged kirkstallers right to hold his views, I did question why such homophobic bigotry was still legal.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 11:40 am  

To avoid me having to re-read this long thread does anyone know (and can they point me to) where the OP expressed his racism, homophobia, etc?

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 11:44 am  

Dally wrote:

To avoid me having to re-read this long thread does anyone know (and can they point me to) where the OP expressed his racism, homophobia, etc?

Page 4, op "I believe same-sex relations to be wrong" and it kind of just floods from there.

but at least you've got a fellow bigot to play with eh.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 11:50 am  

Dally wrote:

To avoid me having to re-read this long thread does anyone know (and can they point me to) where the OP expressed his racism, homophobia, etc?

kirkstaller wrote:

Women should have no teaching authority in a church. What is wrong with that, if that is what God demands?

Sexism?

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 11:51 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

As you hold the Bible to be the sole authority on morality, where does it say that we can't use vulgar expletives?

So that would be an "it doesn't", then.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 11:57 am  

Standee wrote:

Page 4, op "I believe same-sex relations to be wrong" and it kind of just floods from there.

but at least you've got a fellow bigot to play with eh.

So he believes that same sex relationships are wrong. That is a statement of his view. I see nothing evil about that. He's not advocating beating homosexuals up so far as I can tell. So, what is the problem? He has a different view to others on here?

The one thing that can't be got away from is the facts. The norm for humanity is heterosexuality (that's why the world is so overpopulated and we have two sexes in the first place!) and homosexuals are very much in the minority. Moving away from religion for a moment, in a democracy there views should not be heard above the mainstream nor over-represented. Nearly all stable human societies ever seem to have had spirituality / religion as key component. So, religion is mainstream irrespective or whether or not that is reflected in formalised church-going at this particular moment in our particular country's history.

So, what I would say that provided the OP is simply expressing his views and not advocating violence then his views are valid and indeed more valid than a vociferous minority who are overly repsrented on this thread.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 12:07 pm  

Dally wrote:

So he believes that same sex relationships are wrong. That is a statement of his view. I see nothing evil about that. He's not advocating beating homosexuals up so far as I can tell. So, what is the problem? He has a different view to others on here?

The one thing that can't be got away from is the facts. The norm for humanity is heterosexuality (that's why the world is so overpopulated and we have two sexes in the first place!) and homosexuals are very much in the minority. Moving away from religion for a moment, in a democracy there views should not be heard above the mainstream nor over-represented. Nearly all stable human societies ever seem to have had spirituality / religion as key component. So, religion is a mainstream irrespective or whether or not that is reflected in formalised church-going at this particular moment in our particular country's history.

So, what I would say that provided the OP is simply expressing his views and not advocating violence then his views are valid and indeed more valid than a vociferous minority who are overly repsrented on this thread.

he's a homophobic bigot, you're in good company Dally.

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 12:13 pm  

Standee wrote:

... but at least you've got a fellow bigot to play with eh.

~snigger~

Re: Coalition For Marriage : Wed May 23, 2012 12:17 pm  

Dally wrote:

So he believes that same sex relationships are wrong. That is a statement of his view. I see nothing evil about that. He's not advocating beating homosexuals up so far as I can tell. So, what is the problem? He has a different view to others on here?

The one thing that can't be got away from is the facts. The norm for humanity is heterosexuality (that's why the world is so overpopulated and we have two sexes in the first place!) and homosexuals are very much in the minority. Moving away from religion for a moment, in a democracy there views should not be heard above the mainstream nor over-represented. Nearly all stable human societies ever seem to have had spirituality / religion as key component. So, religion is mainstream irrespective or whether or not that is reflected in formalised church-going at this particular moment in our particular country's history.

So, what I would say that provided the OP is simply expressing his views and not advocating violence then his views are valid and indeed more valid than a vociferous minority who are overly repsrented on this thread.

He's telling people that they will suffer appallingly for the rest of eternity if they don't do what he says.

It's difficult to get much more violent and threatening than that. And indeed, such views are exactly the sort of things that give ammunition and 'authority' to the people who do go around beating people up.

Something that you approve of, as I recall. Well, as long as the people getting beaten up are poofs, of course.