Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Wed May 22, 2013 9:00 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

They both look crap. Get your heads out of the ground and question why the need for a new console without much development.

Look at the step up from PS1 to PS2, then PS2 to 360/PS3. The development was huge but it's like gaming has hit a brick wall.

Exactly my view. I am very underwhelmed and have no interest in purchasing either of the consoles. The step up in performance looks to be minimal compared to every past generation, and third-parties will continue to release their games on 360 & PS3.

Current gen consoles reached a saturation point a long time ago so I can see why the manufacturers are desperate to get something new out now, but I don't see the sales figures for these new consoles being great.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Wed May 22, 2013 9:23 pm  

dany1979 wrote:

However having seen both presentations I think its quite sad that people are not really talking about what matters, the games.

I think that was a deliberate ploy. Too much time between now and release to keep the hype up, so start it slow to get people aware of the name then release a stream of hyped up games between now and release.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Wed May 22, 2013 10:06 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

They both look crap. Get your heads out of the ground and question why the need for a new console without much development.

Is it not just that you're getting old? Obviously it's not going to be as pant wettingly exciting to see a new console as it was when you were 11. We've seen almost nothing in terms of games on either console as yet.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Thu May 23, 2013 8:15 am  

I don't understand the 'there's minimal difference' argument. Theses consoles are x10s more powerful than the current gen. Imagine what some of the games are going to look like a couple of years down the line.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Thu May 23, 2013 8:44 am  

I suspect the game Roddy mentioned regarding a 'guy with a girl following him' is The Last of Us. Should be out on PS3 next month and is shaping up to be a genuine GOTY contender. It looks brilliant and I can't wait to play it.
So if that game did absolutely nothing for you, perhaps you're just not into gaming anymore.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Thu May 23, 2013 10:08 am  

Completely agree Nothus, The Last of Us looks absoloutely brilliant.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Thu May 23, 2013 7:39 pm  

Robbo wrote:

the new xbox live does look impressive, but it will come at a cost which is another thing that put's me off. with GTA5 coming to this generation and probably keeping me occupied for a while I don't think I'll be in any rush to be getting a next gen console.

My thinking exactly. Hopefully the price will drop pretty steeply in the few months (hopefully) GTA5 will last me.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Fri May 24, 2013 9:48 am  

Saddened! wrote:

What makes you think that the PS4 is a better gaming console? The reveals gave very little of that side of things away. Gaming these days is all about multi-player and Live will no doubt once again make PSN look like a child's toy made by Leapfrog. MS are investing an enormous amount in this again this time.

The technical specs are pretty irrelevant in this one I think. They are so closely matched that it's just not an issue. There was a far bigger technical shortfall in this generation and can you honestly tell the difference between the 360 and PS3? What is far more important is how easy it is for cost-conscious developers to code on the systems. MS had Sony well and truly beaten in this regard in this generation by all accounts, but I have no idea about the new ones.

I thought both reveals were very conservative. Neither really gave much away, but what they did show looked pretty well executed (Social aspects of PSN and the sharing button for Sony and the multimedia aspects of Xbox). MS didn't really touch much on the gaming side of things at all, certainly none of the social side of Live, which indicates that it's either aware it's got ground to make up or it just doesn't want to give it away.

I don't think there was anything from either side to make the fanboys (Which is what almost all of us on here are to varying degrees if we're honest about it) jump ship. E3 is going to be interesting and will show off the gaming side of both consoles more clearly. Price and who is out first will also be important. I can see Sony getting the PS4 out first (Learning lessons from last time) and also being cheaper. They don't have the hardware burden of Kinnect, so should really be £100 cheaper unless MS uses it's might to subsidise it to match Sony.

Genuine question; what makes you say that?

I know developers have started cramming multiplayer in left, right and centre, but that's more to try and combat the pre-owned market than driven by demand. I personally have very little interest in multiplayer (at least of the online variety), and my personal circle of gaming friends is a fairly even split, if not tipped in the favour of single-player gamers. My suspicion is that the online multiplayers just shout louder, rather than outnumber single-player gamers.

Also, on your point about telling the difference between 360 and PS3 versions: You're right, you barely can. That may well be because most of the multi-format games are primarily programmed for the 360, the technically weaker console. For pure aesthetics I've not seen anything on 360 come close to the likes of God of War 3, though. It will always be like this though, so unless whichever console is more powerful really go to town on first-party games the actual difference in performance-level capability will be marginalised.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Fri May 24, 2013 7:53 pm  

Its been confirmed that microsoft will charge you £35 for every pre owned game you play on the xbox one. Microsoft have dropped a bollock with this IMO, Sony must be pi55in themselves

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Mon May 27, 2013 9:00 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote: Its been confirmed that microsoft will charge you £35 for every pre owned game you play on the xbox one. Microsoft have dropped a bollock with this IMO, Sony must be pi55in themselves Where did you read that? All I see this as is Microsoft taking control of the used game market. It won't be that much more expensive, it'll just mean you can give Microsoft your money for used games (Which they will share with the developers). Sony will do the same anyway As that article mentions, there isn't a cat in hells chance the big developers will accept a system where Microsoft is paying them millions of pounds for used games and Sony isn't. If anything, this move will make Microsoft FAR more popular with the developers and publishers? What is far more likely is that both are doing it. These things will have been discussed between Sony and MS, they aren't stupid. The big game devs and publishers have long been thoroughly annoyed by the used games market, where retailers make enormous margins and they don't get a slice of the pie. The margins on used games is more of a scandal to be honest and I'm not at all surprised that MS and the developers and publishers want their cut.

Charlie Sheen wrote: Its been confirmed that microsoft will charge you £35 for every pre owned game you play on the xbox one. Microsoft have dropped a bollock with this IMO, Sony must be pi55in themselves Where did you read that? All I see this as is Microsoft taking control of the used game market. It won't be that much more expensive, it'll just mean you can give Microsoft your money for used games (Which they will share with the developers). Sony will do the same anyway As that article mentions, there isn't a cat in hells chance the big developers will accept a system where Microsoft is paying them millions of pounds for used games and Sony isn't. If anything, this move will make Microsoft FAR more popular with the developers and publishers? What is far more likely is that both are doing it. These things will have been discussed between Sony and MS, they aren't stupid. The big game devs and publishers have long been thoroughly annoyed by the used games market, where retailers make enormous margins and they don't get a slice of the pie. The margins on used games is more of a scandal to be honest and I'm not at all surprised that MS and the developers and publishers want their cut.