Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:34 am  

wrencat1873 wrote: That's seriously funny, if slightly sick. Do you really think that during his time in office, Trump will deliver on some of his wildest campaign "promises" ? The wall across the Mexican border, paid for by the Mexicans will be the first test, followed by strict vetting for all Muslims entering the US. Just how many of his wild claims do you think he will deliver on. These 2 alone would cause huge, huge problems for him. Have a look on here for some of the other promises that he made http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... -promises/ He will be found out for what he actually is, an extremely wealthy bully, who's money has allowed him to do pretty much anything he wants in his 70 years on the planet but, being President isn't going to be quite the same and you can expect some hefty back peddling. With regards to back peddling, Hillary's an expert at this.

wrencat1873 wrote: That's seriously funny, if slightly sick. Do you really think that during his time in office, Trump will deliver on some of his wildest campaign "promises" ? The wall across the Mexican border, paid for by the Mexicans will be the first test, followed by strict vetting for all Muslims entering the US. Just how many of his wild claims do you think he will deliver on. These 2 alone would cause huge, huge problems for him. Have a look on here for some of the other promises that he made http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post ... -promises/ He will be found out for what he actually is, an extremely wealthy bully, who's money has allowed him to do pretty much anything he wants in his 70 years on the planet but, being President isn't going to be quite the same and you can expect some hefty back peddling. With regards to back peddling, Hillary's an expert at this.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:29 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Do you take joy in a world gone mad?

The world went mad long before 2016.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:13 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

At least nobody can argue they were lied to in this case. It was there for everyone to see from the start. Nobody with any regrets can turn around and say ''this isn't what I voted for, I thought he was a top bloke".

Are you serious!??

He lied and lied and lied. And then lied some more.

The funniest thing since the election is seeing the idiots who voted for him - to jail Hillary, end Obamacare and get Mexico pay for a wall - watch him weasel out of those promises and he hasn't even started the job yet!

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:07 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Are you serious!??

He lied and lied and lied. And then lied some more.

The funniest thing since the election is seeing the idiots who voted for him - to jail Hillary, end Obamacare and get Mexico pay for a wall - watch him weasel out of those promises and he hasn't even started the job yet!

They all lie, that's what people are fed up with.

They voted for someone who MAY give them a little bit of something, instead of a whole load of nothing from the same old same old. They may be a lot of idiots in your opinion, but like this country with Brexit, the Idiots seem to be becoming the majority and this phenomenon will likely sweep through europe too next year so best get used to it.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:33 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

They all lie, that's what people are fed up with.

They voted for someone who MAY give them a little bit of something, instead of a whole load of nothing from the same old same old. They may be a lot of idiots in your opinion, but like this country with Brexit, the Idiots seem to be becoming the majority and this phenomenon will likely sweep through europe too next year so best get used to it.

I'm not sure that they do lie to the extent that Trump did. In fact there were studies done during the election that proved this.

It may have been the same old but a politician as experienced as Clinton knows what the system can and can't deliver for people. Interestingly it was reported widely, that Trump was amazed at just how much work the job entailed and how complex it is, when he met Obama.

When people listen to the simplistic solutions offered by the likes of UKIP and Trump, to difficult problems like immigration, do they not consider that if it was so simple it would have been done before?

Trump is already starting to understand that being a politician is a lot harder than he thought it might be. And so will the idiots who voted for him. He won't last four years.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:06 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

I'm not sure that they do lie to the extent that Trump did. In fact there were studies done during the election that proved this.

It may have been the same old but a politician as experienced as Clinton knows what the system can and can't deliver for people. Interestingly it was reported widely, that Trump was amazed at just how much work the job entailed and how complex it is, when he met Obama.

When people listen to the simplistic solutions offered by the likes of UKIP and Trump, to difficult problems like immigration, do they not consider that if it was so simple it would have been done before?

Trump is already starting to understand that being a politician is a lot harder than he thought it might be. And so will the idiots who voted for him. He won't last four years.

The Brexit and Trump campaign were quite similar in some respects.

Tapping into the fears of the "ordinary man in the street", blaming immigrants for "taking all our jobs" and playing on peoples fears.
What is alarming is the hatred that both of these characters have stirred up within the people of these 2 nations, something that will take a lifetime to bring back to where things were pre election.

Although there is little doubt that this type of campaign has won many votes, it's a dangerous path to tread and people should show compassion for their fellow man and not be finding groups of people to hate or to blame.

It took decades to bring Europe together after the 2 world wars and for the Berlin Wall to fall but, the solution for Farage and Trump is become insular within their own country (ironic as both of them have married "foreigners") and become more and more insular.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:31 am  

Trump is, in political terms, incredibly naïve; after all his rhetoric and hate speech, his response was to look down the camera during an interview and say "Stop it."

So far, he's allied himself with some controversial operators in the US, as well as Katie Hopkins and Nigel Farage in the UK - it's not looking good in terms of restoring unity to a country that has been divided by his campaign.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:32 am  

His chief strategist Steve Bannon's link to Breitbart news and white supremacy groups is very worrying - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 16606.html

His chief strategist Steve Bannon's link to Breitbart news and white supremacy groups is very worrying - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 16606.html

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:24 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote: His chief strategist Steve Bannon's link to Breitbart news and white supremacy groups is very worrying - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 16606.html More hysteria. So Trump is likely to be anti-Semitic based on this "evidence"? Well family actions speak louder than words - Trump's daughter has converted to Judaism and his son-in-law is Jewish.

Aboveusonlypie wrote: His chief strategist Steve Bannon's link to Breitbart news and white supremacy groups is very worrying - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 16606.html More hysteria. So Trump is likely to be anti-Semitic based on this "evidence"? Well family actions speak louder than words - Trump's daughter has converted to Judaism and his son-in-law is Jewish.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:00 pm  

Dally wrote:

More hysteria. So Trump is likely to be anti-Semitic based on this "evidence"? Well family actions speak louder than words - Trump's daughter has converted to Judaism and his son-in-law is Jewish.

That should make it interesting