Re: Fitness / health thread? : Wed May 28, 2014 12:55 pm  

Ski wrote:

Paleo is excellent in terms of getting good natural food into you, and there are some fantastic and tasty recipies out there (i'm currently making paleo protein brownies).

JuicePlus and Herbashite are dangerous, and have been shown to be nothing but a fad that do not support sustainable weight loss. A colleague of mine is one some 600kcal a day diet, and has shed a couple of stone. He had a week off and put half a stone back on. Some people look too much for the quick and easy fix, neglecting to think slow progress is still progress.

Another point, You CANNOT turn muscle into fat. It is an impossibility. You can, however, have muscle where the fat once was.

That's keytosis for you. Bounce back will happen due to the fact that your muscles go from being empty of energy stores to being full again.

Not done it myself but that's what Keytosis is. It forces the body to use up all it's energy stores (Stored in it's muscles) then when it's empty it has to go looking elsewhere which is when it starts breaking down fat stores and using that instead.

It gives you bad breath and stinking urine due to the keytone's it cannot use being expelled. Nasty head aches and feeling like crap are also a side effect for a few days.

Being diabetic in keytosis is a killer though.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Wed May 28, 2014 12:57 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Herbalife is incredibly dangerous for you. People really should read into things before suggesting them to others.

If you are diabetic yes.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Wed May 28, 2014 10:02 pm  

Use music when exercising, makes a big difference!

Also get out more, exercise doesn't mean you need to stay in a gym.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Thu May 29, 2014 12:09 pm  

I'm glad i found this thread because IT IS TIME!

I used to be a really fit guy. Played footy as a kid, loads of basketball as a teenager, rugby league at uni. Then worked as a Personal Fitness Trainer for a few years and was a spinning instructor too. I then changed jobs and i mostly work behind a desk (have done for about five years now) but in that time my food intake has been as big as it was when i was fit and needed the calories and i just lost all love for training.

I'm over 6'4" in height and i was always heavy even when fit (18stone+). Although I've not weighed myself for a while (have no scales) i wouldn't be surprised if i weigh around 22stone+ now!

So the time is nigh! It's time to lose some fat and reduce the size of my belly, booty and thighs.

In the last two years or so i've stopped fitting into the usual XL t's and jumpers i had and i've been wearing cheap XXL+ clothes that i've bought with the thought in mind "i'll just buy these to wear for now until i lose some weight" but i've just not got round to/can't be bothered doing it. So i not only feel oversized, i look like a scruffbag n'all. I suppose it's just getting me down now!

So i'm starting the Paleo/Caveman diet plan from tomorrow. Basically a no carb diet plan. Which i will stick to over the Summer whilst doing a fairly gradual (going to start easy because i have done next to nothing for about five years!) training schedule. I'm thinking simple sessions, one cardio machine for 45mins+ keeping my HR to around 60% of my max. then pushing it up to 70% as i feel i'm getting fitter. Also with high rep/low weight resistance training.

Into the Autumn i plan to introduce carbs back to my diet but in the form of wholegrains. So still no white bread/pasta/rice at all. With that i'm going to start on a "hypertrophy" resistance regime with more intense interval cardio sessions too.

Into the Winter, as i will be eating more, i plan to do some strength resistance training and more short sharp bursts with cardio training.

Then into the New Year i want to do "Insanity" and follow the training and diet plan from that.

I hope i can stick to it. It's not like i don't know what i'm doing, i worked in the fitness industry for 4 years. I'm just worried that my sedentary lifestyle over recent years has made me lose confidence and motivation.

I might buy some scales on the way home this afternoon and post my weights on here over the months ahead as a bit of tracking and motivation to keep going.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Thu May 29, 2014 4:07 pm  

You're post suggests you don't though Buckley :confused:

Why take the significantly unhealthy option of no carbs, rather than just hitting healthy macros for protein, fat and carbs, and taking your calorie intake 500 below your TDEE. In fact, you didn't mention calorie counting at all. :confused:
Why high rep/low weight training, rather than a programme that would build strength and muscle, therefore increasing your BMR :confused:

WTF would anyone who knows exercise would do "insanity" :confused: and why wait seven months to start what you seem to think is the better programme. Just get on a basic progressive proven programme. Get stronger, and fitter, and leaner. As a newb, you'll see that period of being able to gain muscle whilst being on a calorific deficit last well into next January anyway.

Good luck with your goals, anyway.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Thu May 29, 2014 4:41 pm  

LDNMuscle have a really good beginners guide and it's currently free to download. I'm using there cutting guide at the minute and it's brutal

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Thu May 29, 2014 5:16 pm  

Richie wrote:

You're post suggests you don't though Buckley :confused:

Why take the significantly unhealthy option of no carbs, rather than just hitting healthy macros for protein, fat and carbs, and taking your calorie intake 500 below your TDEE. In fact, you didn't mention calorie counting at all. :confused:
Why high rep/low weight training, rather than a programme that would build strength and muscle, therefore increasing your BMR :confused:

WTF would anyone who knows exercise would do "insanity" :confused: and why wait seven months to start what you seem to think is the better programme. Just get on a basic progressive proven programme. Get stronger, and fitter, and leaner. As a newb, you'll see that period of being able to gain muscle whilst being on a calorific deficit last well into next January anyway.

Good luck with your goals, anyway.

Sorry. No carbs is misleading. You get all carbs from fruit and veg while eating paleo.

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Fri May 30, 2014 8:38 pm  

Buckley ignore Richie. Insanity is a great way of shredding fat. Hes trying to bore you with technical terms. Just eat less and do insanity and you will see results. Then you can just laugh at Richie for knowing nothing.

Regards

King James

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Fri May 30, 2014 10:34 pm  

Shouldn't this thread involve a discussion about various types of Lycra?

Re: Fitness / health thread? : Sat May 31, 2014 8:34 am  

A few people I know have done insanity with no prior exercise habits, I'd go straight into it if you just want to lose weight.