Re: getting schools open : Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:27 am  

IR80 wrote:

As I recall, when I did my A levels it was in a gym with small desks pretty much 1m apart, with a teacher wandering around generally doing f'k all. In fact, most of my education involved reading books written by someone else whilst the teacher generally did f'k all except tell us which page to start from and then hand out questions, written by someone else and recycled over the years.

What did you want them to do in your exams? Tell you the answers? Write them on the paper for you?

State education needs fully bringing up to the 21st century. It has improved massively, but there are still areas where kids are still learning the same useless rubbish I was learning over 25 years ago. We were on the cusp of the information age and we were being prepared for work in coal mines, power stations and on spinning jennies as if the industrial revolution was in full swing! It's only when I went to college that I really started learning.

Re: getting schools open : Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:33 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Let's get back to A levels - how difficult would it have been to allow these kids to take these exams - not really - papers were already written - plenty of space to allow for social distancing - plenty of teachers with time on their hands. Sadly not the will on the part of the teachers - they should hang their head in shame.

Who made the decision to cancel the exams? I'm pretty certain the teachers in our trust would have facilitated the A Level exams if allowed to. I think you believe teachers actually have more power then they do. Where are you getting all these 'teachers are to blame' attack lines from?

Gavin Williamson, Education Secretary, said cancelling SATs, GCSEs, A levels and AS levels would "save people's lives".

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:06 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

Who made the decision to cancel the exams? I'm pretty certain the teachers in our trust would have facilitated the A Level exams if allowed to. I think you believe teachers actually have more power then they do. Where are you getting all these 'teachers are to blame' attack lines from?

Gavin Williamson, Education Secretary, said cancelling SATs, GCSEs, A levels and AS levels would "save people's lives".

I think if the teaching unions who are the ones with the grunt had said "let's get the A Levels done" they would have happened but sadly the teaching unions seem to want to put any obstacle in the way of teachers returning to normality.

To say the unions have no power doesn't represent the true situation

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:33 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I think if the teaching unions who are the ones with the grunt had said "let's get the A Levels done" they would have happened but sadly the teaching unions seem to want to put any obstacle in the way of teachers returning to normality.

To say the unions have no power doesn't represent the true situation

Hang on a minute. You're always telling us that unions have too much power and need reigning in. Now you're telling us that the unions should flex their power to get schools open. Make your mind up.

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:47 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Suggestions are that spread of Covid in schools around the world is minimal - suggest teachers and their unions just get back to doing the job they are paid for. Stop their money if they don't want to return - let's see how many stick it out?

Really? South Korean evidence showed the opposite and that 12-13 yea4 old were the biggest spreaders.

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:53 am  

I will make a prediction - if schools reopen on a ‘business as usual’ basis the infection rate nationally will increase significantly. I made a prediction in writing back in March that the UK would have one of the highest death rates and the most affected economies in the developed world, which have this far proved correct. It was blatantly obvious then that our inept government was ignoring evidence from around the world, as they still are.

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:34 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

Hang on a minute. You're always telling us that unions have too much power and need reigning in. Now you're telling us that the unions should flex their power to get schools open. Make your mind up.

The reason the exams didn't take place was in part due to union pressure. The unions have issued a 200 point - yes 200 - document that unless everyone of these 200 - yes 200 points are not adopted they will stop their members returning to work. Yes their power needs reigning in even Stevie Wonder can see their objectives - get Williamson out.

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:37 am  

Dally wrote:

I will make a prediction - if schools reopen on a ‘business as usual’ basis the infection rate nationally will increase significantly. I made a prediction in writing back in March that the UK would have one of the highest death rates and the most affected economies in the developed world, which have this far proved correct. It was blatantly obvious then that our inept government was ignoring evidence from around the world, as they still are.

Nostradamus speaks - we have a very densely populated country with a service based economy - you remove the people then the service sector is going to suffer - it doesn't take a highly attuned mind to predict what will happen

So do we wait for a vaccine for the kids to go back to school?

Re: getting schools open : Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Nostradamus speaks - we have a very densely populated country with a service based economy - you remove the people then the service sector is going to suffer - it doesn't take a highly attuned mind to predict what will happen

So do we wait for a vaccine for the kids to go back to school?

Seems we have a government that could not though.

Re: getting schools open : Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:47 am  

Dally wrote:

Seems we have a government that could not though.

you really are an eegit.