Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:18 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

It's going to be interesting. Can't kick the can any further down the road now.

it seems to be lost in the long grass!

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:48 am  

David Davies (Brexit Secretary) resigned, Tories in utter disarray, what chance of a deal now ??
I'm not sure that we have ever seen such inept leadership in government and certainly not on such an important issue.

Our @friends@ in the EU mist be absolutely pissing themselves at just how poor we are.

The government started with no plan for Brexit and just a few months short of the big day, they are getting more and more disjointed.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:59 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

David Davies (Brexit Secretary) resigned, Tories in utter disarray, what chance of a deal now ??
I'm not sure that we have ever seen such inept leadership in government and certainly not on such an important issue.

Our @friends@ in the EU mist be absolutely pissing themselves at just how poor we are.

The government started with no plan for Brexit and just a few months short of the big day, they are getting more and more disjointed.

they didn't think they needed a plan, all sane people wanted to remain, only the racist over 60's voted leave.

I agree, it is an utter shambles and May has proven she couldn't lead a dog, let alone a country.

I wonder how much Chequers would bring on the open market, because it's of zero value to the country.

I have, for a long time, been a conservative, but now I just think all politics is the preserve of self serving individuals.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:07 am  

Leigh_Manning wrote:

I just think all politics is the preserve of self serving individuals.

UK politics is in a real mess. There is a golden opportunity for someone to step forward and make themselves the hero, but as you said, the self-serving attitude within will be weighing up the potential losses of this undertaking. They may single-handedly save the country, but on the other hand they may lose their personal perks. It's a tough one.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:17 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

UK politics is in a real mess. There is a golden opportunity for someone to step forward and make themselves the hero, but as you said, the self-serving attitude within will be weighing up the potential losses of this undertaking. They may single-handedly save the country, but on the other hand they may lose their personal perks. It's a tough one.

We need a peaceful equivalent of Guido Fawkes, kick them all out and get REAL people into power, but it will never happen, tbe system is corrupt, has been for centuries.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:39 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

David Davies (Brexit Secretary) resigned, Tories in utter disarray, what chance of a deal now ??
I'm not sure that we have ever seen such inept leadership in government and certainly not on such an important issue.

Our @friends@ in the EU mist be absolutely pissing themselves at just how poor we are.

The government started with no plan for Brexit and just a few months short of the big day, they are getting more and more disjointed.

Just a casual observation from someone watching far away...unbiased.
The thing has been totally mismanaged with no though out constructive plan....is tuning into a complete ___ up...time to hit the pause button and reassess....
Is a total mess already....

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:25 am  

You can't negotiate with the EU when you're still negotiating with your own party.

She'll either try and ignore the Brexiters and press on with Norway-lite if the EU go along with it or she'll get forced out and then we could end up with anything.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:20 pm  

So, the Cabinet all toddle along to Chequers where the Maybot say's "back my new plan or you're out on your ear". They all then scamper home & whine & moan followed by Davies's resignation!

What a spineless bunch of illegitimate's they are.

So now we have a watered down membership option or a Dickensian utopia - brilliant, congratulations to Cameron right down to the knuckle-draggers who believed the hype.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:02 pm  

Davis has done the first useful thing he's ever managed, by being May's Geoffrey Howe - she'll be gone within a week. God knows what we'll be left with - probably one of Johnson, Gove or Rees-Mogg - but all of that requires time on manoeuvres, which is yet more time they're not negotiating with the EU.

It's an absolute clusterfuck - a group of self-serving old Etonians have savaged democracy, divided the country and undermined the economy, all for the sake of their interminable one-upping of each other; but I guess it's all jolly-japes when the outcome has no bearing on your personally. It's a total embarrassment - and if any tory supporting Brexiteer fancies attempting to polish this particular turd, best of luck with that.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:08 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

So, the Cabinet all toddle along to Chequers where the Maybot say's "back my new plan or you're out on your ear". They all then scamper home & whine & moan followed by Davies's resignation!

What a spineless bunch of illegitimate's they are.

So now we have a watered down membership option or a Dickensian utopia - brilliant, congratulations to Cameron right down to the knuckle-draggers who believed the hype.

a bit like paying the bills but not living in the house, like a normal divorce!

pathetic, on all sides