Re: General Election 8th June : Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:25 pm  

Michael Gove back as environment secretary... He's already knackered the Education system, the environment should be a doddle, as the hard work is already done.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:23 am  

GUBRATS wrote:

Talking about stuff is easy , actually implementing it is something entirely different , many of his idea's I agree with in principle , but I know they would never work in the real world , unfortunately Mr Corbyn doesn't live in the real world

It was a response to the guy saying that Corbyn could just say whatever he wanted and make up a bunch of appealing policies because he knew he would never have to implement them. When actually his manifesto was stuff that he's been talking about for 30 years.

But like the other poster said, most of his policies are standard in many other countries. I saw some Swedish guy living in the UK who said he was shocked by the way Corbyn was viewed as radical here because he would just be a regular candidate in Sweden and everything he is proposing is taken for granted there.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:24 am  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

he's a pacifist terrorism apologist

lol you didn't think this through did you?

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:38 am  

headhunter wrote:

lol you didn't think this through did you?

Statement of documented fact, but that never bothered Corbynites.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:14 am  

headhunter wrote:

It was a response to the guy saying that Corbyn could just say whatever he wanted and make up a bunch of appealing policies because he knew he would never have to implement them. When actually his manifesto was stuff that he's been talking about for 30 years.

But like the other poster said, most of his policies are standard in many other countries. I saw some Swedish guy living in the UK who said he was shocked by the way Corbyn was viewed as radical here because he would just be a regular candidate in Sweden and everything he is proposing is taken for granted there.

Nobody said he didn't agree with the stuff or that he hasn't been saying it for years, but he could just throw it all in in one go regardless of it not all adding up. And the 2nd point has already been answered, it's not that any of his ideas are radical or bad on their own, it's when you add them all up and try to do them at the same time along with Brexit and trying to hit the rich and businesses, the latter of which will vary in difficulty depending on which country you're in. To say "oh stuff works in other countries" makes politics sound naively easy.

Also if you want to talk about stuff he's been saying for years lets not forget the questionable/bad stuff too that his supporters try to dismiss as people just trying to slander him.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:11 am  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Statement of documented fact, but that never bothered Corbynites.

Pacifist and terrorist dont go together, please have a look in the dictionary.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:35 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Pacifist and terrorist dont go together, please have a look in the dictionary.

Terrorist apologist, try READING.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:53 am  

headhunter wrote:

It was a response to the guy saying that Corbyn could just say whatever he wanted and make up a bunch of appealing policies because he knew he would never have to implement them. When actually his manifesto was stuff that he's been talking about for 30 years.

But like the other poster said, most of his policies are standard in many other countries. I saw some Swedish guy living in the UK who said he was shocked by the way Corbyn was viewed as radical here because he would just be a regular candidate in Sweden and everything he is proposing is taken for granted there.

In small economies like those in Scandinavia that kind of policy is more easily adopted - their isn't a country in Europe the size of the UK economy that has that level of government intervention.

Dennis Skinner has been spouting the same rhetoric as Corbyn for as long as Corbyn does that make those policies more/less valid?

What this needs is wealth generators - and what Labour wanted to do is tax the wealth generators into oblivion - it is a policy bordering on Lunacy!!

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:36 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

What this needs is wealth generators - and what Labour wanted to do is tax the wealth generators into oblivion - it is a policy bordering on Lunacy!!

He wants to tax corporations at rates that would still be lower than 2010 - and at a rate that would still be the lowest in the G7; how many times do I have to repeat this before you actually read and understand it?

With regard to personal taxation - almost half the electorate voted for him; I don't believe for a minute that every single one of them was a member of the undeserving poor. There are actually people who can see the bigger picture and are prepared to make personal sacrifices for the greater good - the idiots.

What is clear is that there is appetite for change - and as long as the Maybot maintains her position of squatting in no 10 and rotating the same bunch of idiots who helped create this mess, propped up by a soupcon of regressive Orangemen, change is what we will get.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:00 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

In small economies like those in Scandinavia that kind of policy is more easily adopted - their isn't a country in Europe the size of the UK economy that has that level of government intervention.

Dennis Skinner has been spouting the same rhetoric as Corbyn for as long as Corbyn does that make those policies more/less valid?

What this needs is wealth generators - and what Labour wanted to do is tax the wealth generators into oblivion - it is a policy bordering on Lunacy!!

So what you are saying is if you give the wealthy more money, they may throw some crumbs down to the working classes? I'd rather any government force them to pay their way then leave it up to the wealthy to do whats right for the people of this country