Re: General Election 8th June : Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:28 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The only reason a nurse would be using a food bank is because of other personal financial issues. If everyone earning less than a nurse was using foodbanks we wouldn't have to queue at the supermarkets - but you knew that really didn't you.

Most parents should have sufficient common sense to know what the educational needs of their child is and as such ensure their children are provided with the necessary material - we don't live in a nanny state where all responsibility is devolved to the centre.

Yep - you're still an idiot.

Re: General Election 8th June : Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:25 pm  

Spoke to a pal of mine today, true blue Tory . Not short of money.I said you will be distraught at the Tory performance. He just laughed, said he voted labour for the first time ever.
Said if jezza had won, he would be richer by about twenty to thirty grand a year. This cos he has three kids at university. So much for all this talk about brexit. If you tell people they will be receiving free stuff usually they will vote for you.
Water under the bridge now, but Mrs mays promise was to remove fuel allowance and scrap the triple lock. Not a surprise she did not receive a working Tory majority.

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:48 am  

bren2k wrote:

Yep - you're still an idiot.

You might need the state make the choices for you - I for one are grown up enough to be able to do it for my self

No wonder you wanted Jeremy to win

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:09 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You might need the state make the choices for you - I for one are grown up enough to be able to do it for my self

No wonder you wanted Jeremy to win

If he'd been extolling a whippet and flat cap tax he'd not have bren and wren's support!

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:28 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You might need the state make the choices for you - I for one are grown up enough to be able to do it for my self

No wonder you wanted Jeremy to win

As I've explained before - I'm in a fortunate position, so some of Labour's policies would have disadvantaged me personally; I was prepared for that, to see an end to some of the cruel and divisive Tory dogma that has caused hardship to so many people.

As it happens, Mrs May is now talking about an end to austerity, so there appears to be an admission that the ideological policy championed by Osborne (who is now one of her most vociferous critics) was not necessary after all; perhaps there is a magic money tree, if it helps to keep the Maybot in position?

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:30 am  

bren2k wrote:

As I've explained before - I'm in a fortunate position, so some of Labour's policies would have disadvantaged me personally; I was prepared for that, to see an end to some of the cruel and divisive Tory dogma that has caused hardship to so many people.

As it happens, Mrs May is now talking about an end to austerity, so there appears to be an admission that the ideological policy championed by Osborne (who is now one of her most vociferous critics) was not necessary after all; perhaps there is a magic money tree, if it helps to keep the Maybot in position?

such as?

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:02 am  

bren2k wrote:

As I've explained before - I'm in a fortunate position, so some of Labour's policies would have disadvantaged me personally; I was prepared for that, to see an end to some of the cruel and divisive Tory dogma that has caused hardship to so many people.

As it happens, Mrs May is now talking about an end to austerity, so there appears to be an admission that the ideological policy championed by Osborne (who is now one of her most vociferous critics) was not necessary after all; perhaps there is a magic money tree, if it helps to keep the Maybot in position?

That would be the Tory dogma that by upping the tax threshold ,lifted thousands of people from paying any income tax whatsoever.

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:08 am  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

such as?

Seriously?

Swingeing cuts to public services
Dreadful treatment of disabled people
Gutting the NHS and alienating the people who work in it - in preparation for creeping privatisation - which many of them will personally benefit from
Doing the same to schools - whilst planning to invest in new grammars
Slashing police and security service numbers - whilst mocking them for 'scaremongering'

Not to mention sending us hurtling towards a catastrophic decision to leave the EU, for the sake of hoovering up UKIP votes; they are acting solely in their parties interests, as demonstrated by their unholy union with the regressive DUP to cling on to power - and that's not acceptable.

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:34 am  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

If he'd been extolling a whippet and flat cap tax he'd not have bren and wren's support!

Seriously ?

Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:45 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Seriously ?

Wake up and smell the coffee.
The reality of where we are now is that, Labour, even with Corbyn at the helm now have a lead in the opinion polls.
Far from "strong and stable", the Tories have the weakest government in 40 years and you still cant see any wrong with Mrs May and her "policies" ?
People have had enough from being squeezed by the Conservative elite under the banner of "paying off the deficit".
Although public sector workers may have enjoyed some decent perks in the past (the 40/60 pension probably being the best of them), to restrict pay to a 15 increase indefinitely is obscene.
This is not flat cap, left wing politics, it's just wrong.
Yes, many private sector workers have been squeezed also but, what kind of society do you want.
It's no good wanting decent services and education for the younger generation and devaluing the very people who you need to deliver these services, whilst at the same time granting the MP's, inflation busting pay rises, partly brought about to help compensate them so that they may stop fiddling their expenses ??