Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:29 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Depends, but it's his birth first name, so why not?

'Depends' - no then.

I can imagine a conversation between Chris 28 and a new colleague:

James: 'Hi I'm James'

Chris 28 'Hi James. Was that the name you were given at birth?!'

James 'Well erm no, it was Paul actually but I changed it by deed poll because I prefer James'

Chris 28 'Oh sorry Paul....I can't accept that. You'll be a Paul around here'.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:17 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

'Depends' - no then.

I can imagine a conversation between Chris 28 and a new colleague:

James: 'Hi I'm James'

Chris 28 'Hi James. Was that the name you were given at birth?!'

James 'Well erm no, it was Paul actually but I changed it by deed poll because I prefer James'

Chris 28 'Oh sorry Paul....I can't accept that. You'll be a Paul around here'.

If James/Paul was an oik, definitely.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:08 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

'Depends' - no then.

I can imagine a conversation between Chris 28 and a new colleague:

James: 'Hi I'm James'

Chris 28 'Hi James. Was that the name you were given at birth?!'

James 'Well erm no, it was Paul actually but I changed it by deed poll because I prefer James'

Chris 28 'Oh sorry Paul....I can't accept that. You'll be a Paul around here'.

Is this possibly the longest post we've seen from Ajw71 – and does it indicate a unique and independent mind or that of a troll who does'nt actually possess an idea of his own?

He doesn't usually make this much effort, unless crying like a baby that anyone suggesting he's a troll is unfair.

And BTW – what is it that he does or pretends to do? Has he ever answered that simple question?

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:18 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Is this possibly the longest post we've seen from Ajw71 – and does it indicate a unique and independent mind or that of a troll who does'nt actually possess an idea of his own?

He doesn't usually make this much effort, unless crying like a baby that anyone suggesting he's a troll is unfair.

And BTW – what is it that he does or pretends to do? Has he ever answered that simple question?

I'll tell 'Minty' what I do when she lets me have evidence that George Osborne hates Jews.

Until then I'll just assume it is a nasty troll who likes to invent serious accusations about others.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:19 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I'll tell 'Minty' what I do when she lets me have evidence that George Osborne hates Jews.

Until then I'll just assume it is a nasty troll who likes to invent serious accusations about others.

Have I missed something? Or is that so far out of left field that its almost right field ?

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:27 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

I'll tell 'Minty' what I do when she lets me have evidence that George Osborne hates Jews.

Until then I'll just assume it is a nasty troll who likes to invent serious accusations about others.

Ah, so you do remember and were just pretending that you didn't know.

That or you really are losing your memory, since it was a thread that had you frothing at the mouth in indignation.

Mind, I never said that "George Osborne hates Jews".

I said that the accusation had been made – not by me – that he changed his name as a teenager because he thought that Gideon 'sounded too Jewish for a future prime minister'. At the time you were pointed to Private Eye, where this accusation was published.

And try as you might, that is not the same.

Must try harder.

Troll.

Chris28 wrote:

Have I missed something? Or is that so far out of left field that its almost right field ?

It's Ajw71. It's what constitutes 'debate' for him.

He gets very upset when anyone is nasty about his hero.

It makes one wonder if he has a poster of the Chancellor on his bedroom wall and, when mummy has tucked him up for the night, he gazes lovingly at it by the streetlight that filters through the gap in his curtains. Some people might use page 3, but not Ajw71. Although he probably keeps the poster of Eric Pickles locked up out of sight.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:39 am  

Gideon's parents must have been devastated to find that he had spurned their imaginative choice of christian name for their son in favour of "George", I mean they COULD have called him George themselves, would have taken very little imagination to come up with a name like George. but no, they gave their boy a moniker to carry through his life which carries the Hebrew meaning "Destroyer" or "Mighty Warrior" and named after a respected judge of Hebrew folklore.

All of those years of getting nanny to explain to the prep school tutors that it wasn't a silly name at all and could the other children stop teasing him or he'll get a complex, all those roastings by the fire at Eton with the big boys in the dorm who simply wanted to slap that lovely chubby face around for a while (we all know that feeling, don't pretend you haven't thought the same), he goes through all of that and for what, to change his name to George.

Sounds like a greengrocers name does George, or when linked to David is the sort of thing you'd see hanging up above a slightly camp male hairdressers, "Tresemme products only at David and George", bad choice of name Gideon, should have stuck to your parents choice, they know what they are doing and they've got your inheritance too...

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:17 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Ah, so you do remember and were just pretending that you didn't know.

That or you really are losing your memory, since it was a thread that had you frothing at the mouth in indignation.

No idea what you are talking about.

Mintball wrote:

Mind, I never said that "George Osborne hates Jews".

I said that the accusation had been made – not by me – that he changed his name as a teenager because he thought that Gideon 'sounded too Jewish for a future prime minister'. At the time you were pointed to Private Eye, where this accusation was published.

You said this:

Mintball wrote:

He changed it because he was an arrogant little teenage tosspot who had already decided he wanted to be PM, and because he thought it sounded a bit too Jewish to help him in that. Allegedly.

Quite a vile individual aren't you?

Mintball wrote:

It's Ajw71. It's what constitutes 'debate' for him.

See above for Mintball style quality 'debate'.

Mintball wrote:

It makes one wonder if he has a poster of the Chancellor on his bedroom wall and, when mummy has tucked him up for the night, he gazes lovingly at it by the streetlight that filters through the gap in his curtains. Some people might use page 3, but not Ajw71. Although he probably keeps the poster of Eric Pickles locked up out of sight.

Sounds like you are describing you and your 'hero' Heinrich Marx.

You would like it in North Korea. They have big pictures of him everywhere. Maybe you should holiday there sometime?

Troll.

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:53 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Well people asked Tony Benn for his opinion after he had retired, he was looked on as an elder statesman, still giving speeches last year. People still wanted his opinion, to hear his say.

Probably because he wasn't able to get his message across when he had the chance I imagine.

When was he prime minister?

Heard of Thatcherism yes? There is no 'Bennism'

Re: TONY BENN DEAD : Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:06 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Probably because he wasn't able to get his message across when he had the chance I imagine.

When was he prime minister?

Heard of Thatcherism yes? There is no 'Bennism'

Here's a thing about elder "statesmen", those who have taken a well paid retirement from parliament - the ones who sat on the Labour side of successive parliaments right up until Blair & Co made their incursion are seen as old school left-wing socialists who are still proud of their heritage, they are valued for their living history opinions of how things may have been in a utopian world - the ones who sat on the Tory side of successive governments are seen today as moderates, men like Heseltine and Portillo just don't seem to be so reactionary these days because of course they aren't anymore, their mantra's of 20 years ago are mild by comparison.

This is how far all political party's have moved to the right, which is what makes the football supporter politics of blue and red flag bearers so laughable - there is so very little to choose between all of them today that they may as well redesign the Commons so that anyone can sit anywhere.