Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:34 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Anyone using the word 'gotten' immediately renders their opinion invalid.

This post deserves more likes than any other on rl fans
come on i'll be the first.

Re: IS and the Western response : Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:48 pm  

Standee wrote:

but you follow another story, because you're white and right?

I dont follow any story, I dont need a book to tell me right from wrong, catholic,jew,christian,mormon,hindu,scientology no problem with any

IS are different, when the local jehova's knock on sunday and we discuss belief they dont hack my head off afterwards, nor me theirs

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:52 pm  

Standee wrote:

had we not gotten involved, Hitler would have left the UK alone. ..

Must be right, we had it in writing;

Chamberlain wrote:

The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine. ... We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.

As we all know, Herr Hitler was a man of his word, and peace in all Europe duly and rapidly ensued.

Operation Sealion and Directive 16, like the Moon landings, are clearly just fakes.

War could have been avoided had Britain surrendered to Germany, but I have this pernickety thing whereby surrendering isn't quite equivalent to "being left alone". Call me picky.

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:07 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Anyone using the word 'gotten' immediately renders their opinion invalid.

Why? Gotten is, in fact, an old English word and the use of it is to be lauded before it disappears from our wonderful language for ever.

As long as it isn't used in the bastardised American way which idicates gaining a possession (e.g., 'I've gotten a new dumpster truck...'), it's fine.

Standee uses it in it's correct English format to indicate the past participle of 'get'. I.e., 'We shouldn't have gotten involved' is perfectly correct English.

Not to criticise any ill-gotten misconceptions, of course.

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:20 pm  

Indefinite ceasefire agreed Let's see eh?

Indefinite ceasefire agreed Let's see eh?

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:32 pm  

And in other news.

I actually thought that this dopey bint taking herself across the pond to the US would keep her quiet, apparently not:

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:46 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

And in other news.

I actually thought that this dopey bint taking herself across the pond to the US would keep her quiet, apparently not:

First rule of any debate is not to reveal your shortcomings. Has she not heard of Google before pressing Tweet?

Idiot

Is she worth following for amusement value?

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:07 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Is she worth following for amusement value?

Not really mate, there's far too much tragedy to balance the amusement. You'd just end up gnashing your teeth or banging your head on a desk.

She really is fooking thick

Re: IS and the Western response : Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:33 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

Why? Gotten is, in fact, an old English word and the use of it is to be lauded before it disappears from our wonderful language for ever.

As long as it isn't used in the bastardised American way which idicates gaining a posession (e.g., 'I've gotten a new dumpster truck...'), it's fine.

Standee uses it in it's correct English format to indicate the past participle of 'get'. I.e., 'We shouldn't have gotten involved' is perfectly correct English.

Not to criticise any ill-gotten misconceptions, of course.

Or, as the Oxford Dictionary puts it, "The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English." It may have roots in Old English/Norse but realistically it simply wasn't used here until the relentless barrage of American TV began to affect our language. Even now it's rarely used, and long may that continue.

Besides, it sounds stupid and the user sounds like a stupid pubescent American.

P.s. when trying to educate one's audience in the English language, it strengthens one's argument to ensure one's spelling and grammar are correct.

Re: IS and the Western response : Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:40 pm  

I suppose the more people dumbly parrot American language abuses then the more will follow, and sadly eventually these horrible Americanisms will, by default, become assimilated.

We already have, in rugby league, widespread use of O-ffense and DE -fense, which I have spelled in American as thankfully all other instances of use of the English word "defence" are still used with the emphasis on the second syllable. But what was wrong with Attack & Defence?

Other words and phrases heading the same way:

"Momentarily" - as in "I'll be with you momentarily". No, I'm gonna need much more of your time than that, pal;

In every other news report, that news reporters' staple verbiage, the awful, ponderous and usually superflous, "in the coming days";

"To go", meaning to take out;

"Can I get". Urrrrrrrgh;

"Step up to the plate" - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrghhhhh!

... and sadly a regular on these very forums, the truly awful "Go figure!"