Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:17 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

There's a huge bucket of poo ready to fall on the next PM's head, and considering the majority of the turds in it belong to BoJo, there's poetic justice in him becoming PM.

we'll be better of with BoJo than Cringbebin, that is certain.

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:21 am  

IR80 wrote:

we'll be better of with BoJo than Cringbebin, that is certain.

It certainly wasn't much of a choice and it has to be said that the poisoned chalice that Mrs May inherited is way more toxic now than it was 3 years ago.
He'll be gone before Christmas, with the beginning of November being the most likely time - this assumes that "do or die" actually meant something.

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:49 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It certainly wasn't much of a choice and it has to be said that the poisoned chalice that Mrs May inherited is way more toxic now than it was 3 years ago.
He'll be gone before Christmas, with the beginning of November being the most likely time - this assumes that "do or die" actually meant something.

I very much doubt much that anything Boris says means much, he may surprise us all.

I admit I believe conservative ideals to the core, but we haven't had a PM of conviction since Thatcher, other than Blair who should be convicted.

It is a very different world we live in, our former "enemies" are now way stronger than us, our skill base has been dismantled, who is to blame I know not, but they are all (at tne top tables) royally b'ng it up!

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:32 pm  

IR80 wrote:

I very much doubt much that anything Boris says means much, he may surprise us all.

I admit I believe conservative ideals to the core, but we haven't had a PM of conviction since Thatcher, other than Blair who should be convicted.

It is a very different world we live in, our former "enemies" are now way stronger than us, our skill base has been dismantled, who is to blame I know not, but they are all (at tne top tables) royally b'ng it up!

The 2 biggest issues apart from Brexit) holding the country back and allowing us into the current mess were the Tories leaving everything "for the markets to decide" and the Unions not allowing companies to modernise quickly enough, which although the unions protected jobs in the short term, they put so many large businesses in a position where they were "flabby" and inefficient.
Lets not even mention the banking crisis, where "the market" allowed greedy bankers to gamble away our kids' futures.

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 pm  

Thatcher was the most devisive PM we have ever had. It was her policies which decimated UK manufacturing and started the UKs steady decline. She was ignorant and towards the end, mad. Blair had a lot of good qualities and he helped to reunite the nation. However, his decision to pally up with Bush and invade Iraq was a big mistake - and one that didnt make any sense even at the time.

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:09 pm  

silver2 wrote:

Thatcher was the most devisive PM we have ever had. It was her policies which decimated UK manufacturing and started the UKs steady decline. She was ignorant and towards the end, mad. Blair had a lot of good qualities and he helped to reunite the nation. However, his decision to pally up with Bush and invade Iraq was a big mistake - and one that didnt make any sense even at the time.

In tha same way that Blair couldn't say no to Bush, Boris will just love the warm feeling of Trumps hand up his booty.
If ever 2 leaders deserved each other, these are the worlds most dangerous couple. Mind you, it's clear who will be wearing the trousers.
All we need now for the perfect threesome is Farage to be appointed either foreign minister or US ambassador. Happy days

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:23 pm  

Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.

But we have been here before.

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:20 pm  

Boris is simply the UK version of Trump.
God help us

[Durham Giant]

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:34 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.

But we have been here before.

As opposed to the police illegally assaulting miners .

Re: Next Tory Leader / Prime Minister : Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:09 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.

But we have been here before.

I love how you use the word illegally as you can't be sure to back up your brave words your spouting