Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:00 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

You wonder why I think you're getting your news from dodgy pro Tory sources. Then you immediately claim that "Boris" is at the "forefront of everything going on". When as any consumer of foreign or international news would know he is utterly invisible.

I understand if it helps you to sleep at night to create these little fictions but reality is always the best medicine.

In fairness, reality sucks just now.
The Daily Mail and "Express" versions of reality, make it easier for some to sleep at night.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:09 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The topic say Ukraine, you principal objection is that no one will give de Pfeffel credit for helping solve the problem.

chissitt wrote:

It's gone a bit quiet on here recently vis a vie Boris bashing, could I detect an air of grudging admiration towards him the way he's thrust himself to the fore in this wicked business in Eastern Europe.

My post above was intended to stimulate a stale thread, admittedly with an element of tongue in cheek as wrenners suspected, why do you think I have a principal objection that nobody will give him credit when it shows that you at least agree he's helping to solve the problem.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:42 pm  

The only stage that de Pfeffel should be on is the one at the comedy store because he was and still is just one big joke.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:55 pm  

chissitt wrote:

My post above was intended to stimulate a stale thread, admittedly with an element of tongue in cheek as wrenners suspected, why do you think I have a principal objection that nobody will give him credit when it shows that you at least agree he's helping to solve the problem.

Johnson is just following the major world leaders - slowly and, in the case of the Tory-backing oligarchs, inadequately. Your desperate attempt to create a false, almost comedic, impression of world leadership is fooling nobody but yourself.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:04 pm  

So Georgia and Ukraine are about to submit applications for EU membership. This along with Sweden and Finland increasingly likely to try and join NATO, and China and India gradually distancing themselves from Russia, it seems Russia is becoming very isolated. Hopefully Ukraine can hold out long enough and force Russia to deescalate.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:19 pm  

The one problem we all have is that we're saturated with news from one side of the divide. We hear how russian news outlets are broadcasting propaganda and the majority of russians believe it, but who's to say its not happening to us also?

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:41 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Johnson is just following the major world leaders - slowly and, in the case of the Tory-backing oligarchs, inadequately. Your desperate attempt to create a false, almost comedic, impression of world leadership is fooling nobody but yourself.

Following world major leaders "plural" who are these people?
Slowly and in the case of Tory backing oligarchs inadequately, what does that mean?.
I asked if people on here were impressed by Boris's interaction in this unsavoury business, and because you can't grasp the simplicity of my question I'm desperately attempting to create a false almost comedic impression of world leadership, but it's not fooling you only myself, well you've certainly got me sussed out cous, perhaps you'd like to explain your thoughts on that one.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:54 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Following world major leaders "plural" who are these people?
Slowly and in the case of Tory backing oligarchs inadequately, what does that mean?.
I asked if people on here were impressed by Boris's interaction in this unsavoury business, and because you can't grasp the simplicity of my question I'm desperately attempting to create a false almost comedic impression of world leadership, but it's not fooling you only myself, well you've certainly got me sussed out cous, perhaps you'd like to explain your thoughts on that one.

I think it’s time for you to give up your attempt to get another thread blocked. I wonder how many you have been successful in doing so since your return to the forum. I would suggest you do a little more reading because you would not need to ask some of the questions you do, but that is your intention, I doubt other than you and the goldfish weekly have not covered the 18 month grace period given to the existing Russian oligarchs to sort their finances out.
I will suggest that others follow the same rule because you never know you may learn something, if you really want to or maybe you should just concentrate on fish be it trapped in a glass case or ruthlessly being caught by the French or Spanish who may just have had their fishing industries better prepared for Brexit.

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:29 pm  

silver2 wrote:

The one problem we all have is that we're saturated with news from one side of the divide. We hear how russian news outlets are broadcasting propaganda and the majority of russians believe it, but who's to say its not happening to us also?

Problem?
Thank the lord they are there reporting

Good on thise pesky MSN journalists I say

Re: Ukraine : Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:46 pm  

So Bojo partied with friends whilst the rest of the country weren’t allowed to see their dying relatives but because he gave Russian oligarchs 2 weeks to sell their uk assets before sanctions hit we should somehow praise him? Yeah ok Chisett. Good one