Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:02 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

If you are going to try to be clever using selective stats you should be more careful

I wasn't using selective stats. I was responding directly to a comment about the number of pit closures under Wilson with the number of pits closed under Wilson. How is that being selective?

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:08 pm  

Durham Giant wrote: 12,000 approx redundancies under the Labour governments for miners. How many under Thatcher. If you are going to try to be clever using selective stats you should be more careful ah, stats. the only ones i could find were these http://www.ncm.org.uk/docs/collections-documents/statistics-in-mining.pdf?sfvrsn=2 when was wilson? 64-70? sodding hell, he obliterated the miners didn't he.

Durham Giant wrote: 12,000 approx redundancies under the Labour governments for miners. How many under Thatcher. If you are going to try to be clever using selective stats you should be more careful ah, stats. the only ones i could find were these http://www.ncm.org.uk/docs/collections-documents/statistics-in-mining.pdf?sfvrsn=2 when was wilson? 64-70? sodding hell, he obliterated the miners didn't he.

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:28 pm  

samwire wrote: ah, stats. the only ones i could find were these http://www.ncm.org.uk/docs/collections-documents/statistics-in-mining.pdf?sfvrsn=2 when was wilson? 64-70? sodding hell, he obliterated the miners didn't he. You may just as easily pick the period '60 to '65 or indeed from 51 to 65 when a different flavour of government were in power - the truth of those times is contained in some of the posts prior to this page, if you'd only care to read them.

samwire wrote: ah, stats. the only ones i could find were these http://www.ncm.org.uk/docs/collections-documents/statistics-in-mining.pdf?sfvrsn=2 when was wilson? 64-70? sodding hell, he obliterated the miners didn't he. You may just as easily pick the period '60 to '65 or indeed from 51 to 65 when a different flavour of government were in power - the truth of those times is contained in some of the posts prior to this page, if you'd only care to read them.

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:37 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

You may just as easily pick the period '60 to '65 or indeed from 51 to 65 when a different flavour of government were in power - the truth of those times is contained in some of the posts prior to this page, if you'd only care to read them.

then you pick that period. the only person whoever gets blamed for destroying the miners, probably eating their babies too, is thatcher. yet when you actually look at the figures you have to ask why as there's others before her who went miles further than she ever did. i've come to the conclusion it's because she was a woman.

who's truth? yours? is this the same truth that says she also destroyed the manufacturing industry?

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:02 am  

Up and at 'em today. Gonna be emotional. Didn't start off too well for me - my blue y-fronts don't fit me anymore.

Gonna cruise around Stockport in my blue VW Jetta with the windows wound down and The Notsensibles blasting out. Then back to my massive house for the TV fest.

Rest In Peace Maggie, the nation waves goodbye lovingly today.

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:14 am  

samwire wrote:

then you pick that period. the only person whoever gets blamed for destroying the miners, probably eating their babies too, is thatcher. yet when you actually look at the figures you have to ask why as there's others before her who went miles further than she ever did. i've come to the conclusion it's because she was a woman.

who's truth? yours? is this the same truth that says she also destroyed the manufacturing industry?

Your conclusion, as usual, is wrong.

The answer to your question is, as has been pointed out several times, contained in the previous pages of this thread and we don't need to go over them again just because you fail to address them and because they don't suit your football supporter style of political blind allegiance.

Just simply absorb this - in the sheet of stats that you produced, removing all political traces and blame, the number of pits and of miners in this country has fallen over any time frame that you care to choose - read the preceding pages of this thread to discover why ...

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:26 am  

littlerich wrote:

Up and at 'em today. Gonna be emotional. Didn't start off too well for me - my blue y-fronts don't fit me anymore.

Gonna cruise around Stockport in my blue VW Jetta with the windows wound down and The Notsensibles blasting out. Then back to my massive house for the TV fest.

Rest In Peace Maggie, the nation waves goodbye lovingly today.

Just to add balance.

Rot in Pieces you war mongering fascist cow.

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:43 am  

The eulogising ends today.
Such a shame.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:50 am  

rover49 wrote:

Just to add balance.

Rot in Pieces you war mongering fascist cow.

The good news is that overnight a hardwood stake was driven into her heart so she wont be coming back.

Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead... : Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:58 am  

LOL - Francis Maude on TV this morning trying to force down the estimates of the cost of the funeral by explaining that you shouldn't factor in the cost of the 700 armed forces lining the route because "they are already on the payroll" and we'd have to pay their wages whether they stood there or not.

Yes Francis, because thats how accountancy works isn't it, "We shouldn't include the cost of these lathes and this factory because we'd have to pay for them even if we weren't producing all of these parts" - I look forward to all of the Premier League football clubs using the same theory when they refuse to pay their huge policing bills...