James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppings : Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:17 pm  

You decide.

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:32 pm  

Or simply a deeply dismal executive.

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:33 pm  

Why can't he be both?

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:37 pm  

For those interested: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interac ... olin-myler Not sure I'd spot anything of great significance if I skim read it (indeed I haven't yet).

For those interested: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interac ... olin-myler Not sure I'd spot anything of great significance if I skim read it (indeed I haven't yet).

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:44 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Or simply a deeply dismal executive.

Well this is true, But that doesn't explain the galloping gob rot that he keeps spewing.

Everytime he opens his mouth he digs his hole even deeper.

His latest gem is when he was confronted with the fact that it has been proven that he recived the e-mail's that he clamied he didnt see was that he recived them on his blackberry on a saturday and he just didn't read them, Even though it came from an editor at the NOTW with links to mails and letters from lawyers.

Even a dismal exec could think of a better excuse than that surely.

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:00 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Mintball wrote:

Or simply a deeply dismal executive.

Well this is true, But that doesn't explain the galloping gob rot that he keeps spewing.

Everytime he opens his mouth he digs his hole even deeper.

His latest gem is when he was confronted with the fact that it has been proven that he recived the e-mail's that he clamied he didnt see was that he recived them on his blackberry on a saturday and he just didn't read them, Even though it came from an editor at the NOTW with links to mails and letters from lawyers.

Even a dismal exec could think of a better excuse than that surely.

It was sent on a Saturday. Presuambly, he was not in the habit of being office bound on Saturdays so he would know it would have come to his Blackberry. I see nothing odd in that. At the end of the day its just an update on a legal matter which his in house team were dealing with him. Myler's brief bullet points for his attention were suggesting a meeting. Why would he read all the detail underneath when he could be updated in a couple of minutes in person?

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:16 am  

Dally wrote:

At the end of the day its just an update on a legal matter which his in house team were dealing with him. Myler's brief bullet points for his attention were suggesting a meeting. Why would he read all the detail underneath when he could be updated in a couple of minutes in person?

Don't be so stupid. Having contradicted his people twice in committee, he now has to claim he never read anything which would mean he did not tell the truth. His only alternative would be to put his hands up and say "OK, fair cop, I knew". To suggest that he got an email but only read a bit of it is as ludicrous as it gets. And if you consider the seriousness of the subject, then Murdoch not reading all of it simply beggars belief. You must be the world's most gullible man if you believe that.

Anyway, the email to Myler proves he lied. If he had not previously discussed the Taylor case with Myler, how could he be getting "an update"? If "it is as bad as we feared" why would we have feared it being bad, if in fact we knew feck all about "it"? The natural reply then would have been - "Colin - eh? What are you talking about"?

The emails from Crone to Myler, which Myler simply forwarded on to Murdoch, are similarly full of ammunition. What - a deal to be offered that's going to cost £700K, and the way to inform your gaffer of it for the first time is just to forward an email? Do you really credit that?

That email also refers to the "further nightmare scenario" relating to the hacking of the PFA solicitor's phone. Again - do you seriously believe that such a fundamentally grave disclosure would first be made to Murdoch by a forwarded email? Really?

The copy email from Julian Pike, the solicitor, states on only the 4th line that Gordon Taylor wanted to show that what happened to him was "rife throughout the organisation". This email states that Taylor's lawyer wants over £1m to settle or else his client wants to see his infernal organisation "hung out to dry". You actually credit that anyone would "inform" their boss for the first time of such a case, at such an advanced stage, simply by a forwarded email?

I'm sorry, but I don't believe a word he says. And if he has not been dissembling, then he must be the world's worst manager, and must have had some of the craziest staff.

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:10 am  

He lied and thinks everyone else is as thick as donkey droppings. To imply that someone that senior would pay less attention to an email because it was the weekend is laughable. I say he thinks; obviously he wouldn't have drafted the letter, his lawyers would have. The apology for 'not raising this sooner' was a nice touch.

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:26 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

This email states that Taylor's lawyer wants over £1m to settle or else his client wants to see MGN "hung out to dry".

You might want to amend that mate, before Mirror Group Newspapers coming a -hunting

Re: James Murdoch is either a liar or thick as donkey droppi : Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:07 am  

Dally wrote:

It was sent on a Saturday. Presuambly, he was not in the habit of being office bound on Saturdays

I'd also presume that the CEO of a publication that is only ever published on a Sunday might not simply switch off his brain on a Saturday, the day that that publication goes to press and delivery.

On the other hand that would imply that he had a brain to switch on.