What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:04 am  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rica.html# Who are these people!! The mind boggles

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rica.html# Who are these people!! The mind boggles

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:16 am  

obeone wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103175/Boy-7-branded-racist-asking-schoolmate-Are-brown-come-Africa.html#

Who are these people!!

The mind boggles

I know. Who on Earth would read the Daily Mail?

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:30 am  

You don't know what the boy said, the way he said it, the context of the conversation or the full reaction of the school. Despite this you feel confident in claiming third-hand info from a disreputable commercial source with a political agenda is symptomatic of the end of civilised society.

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:33 am  

this made me laugh - More than 20,000 pupils aged 11 or younger were put on record for so-called hate crimes such as using the word ‘gaylord’.


And this struck as a bit odd - Ms White, who lives in a three-bedroom house with her son and nine-year-old daughter Olivia

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:26 pm  

To digress slightly from the story and answer the original question 'what are we doing?' :-

We started out striving for equality, a worthwhile and noble cause. This agenda has now gone too far - everyone is poop scared of being accused of some sort of discrimination, so every incident of 'hate' crime [sic] is referred to the police or some sort of investigating authority. The upshot is that people from minorities are treated with kid gloves.

What more, some people from minority groups have cottoned on to this, and are more than happy to take advantage of their 'minority' status to get preferential treatment.

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:49 pm  

The Video Ref wrote:

To digress slightly from the story and answer the original question 'what are we doing?' :-

We started out striving for equality, a worthwhile and noble cause. This agenda has now gone too far - everyone is poop scared of being accused of some sort of discrimination, so every incident of 'hate' crime [sic] is referred to the police or some sort of investigating authority. The upshot is that people from minorities are treated with kid gloves.

What more, some people from minority groups have cottoned on to this, and are more than happy to take advantage of their 'minority' status to get preferential treatment.

1. People aren't scared because of equal opportunities legislation. They are scared because they have not been kept fully informed, offered guidance, training etc.

2. There is no evidence I'm aware of supporting the claim that minorities are uniformly treated with kid gloves.

3. "Taking advantage" of any system is nothing new. Why concentrate solely on minorities when corporate CEOs, bankers, tax dodgers all game the system?

4. Why not answer the real question here: have equal opportunities schemes gone some way toward achieving their goals?

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:08 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

1. People .......are scared because they have not been kept fully informed, offered guidance, training etc.

OMG - how could anyone write such abject drivel? State naaying gone mad - people need to be trained (as opposed to reared) to get on with everyday life!? That one point sums up just how ridiculous things have become and the fact that a sentient being like you seemingly buys into it is quite frankly dismaying and even sickening.

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:25 pm  

Dally wrote:

OMG - how could anyone write such abject drivel? State naaying gone mad - people need to be trained (as opposed to reared) to get on with everyday life!? That one point sums up just how ridiculous things have become and the fact that a sentient being like you seemingly buys into it is quite frankly dismaying and even sickening.

Jeez, clearly I must have been daydreaming when teachers I worked with regularly complained about lack of adequate training on the issue of race discrimination. Indeed, this very issue was raised as the #1 cause for concern amongst trainee teachers at Edge Hill who were placed in schools around Blackburn, Oldham, Burnley, Oswaldtwistle etc. with high (sometimes total) concentrations of ethnic minorities.

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:30 pm  

Seems, on reflection, I may have misinterpreted what you were saying. I now think you are referring to teachers et al reporting too easily. Initially, I thought you were referring to kids / people being trained in what they say in everyday life.

Re: What are we doing? : Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:41 pm  

Dally wrote:

Seems, on reflection, I may have misinterpreted what you were saying. I now think you are referring to teachers et al reporting too easily. Initially, I thought you were referring to kids / people being trained in what they say in everyday life.

Given that legislature relating to racial discrimination has changed quite dramatically over recent years how do children know what and what not to say without being taught?