[DaveO]

April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:41 am  

This must be a joke right? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/29/road-tax-two-tier-system

This must be a joke right? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/29/road-tax-two-tier-system

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:11 am  

DaveO wrote: This must be a joke right? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/29/road-tax-two-tier-system Why must it be a joke? Just because the Government have proposed it, or because you actually have an issue with it? It seems to make sense to me, if you are a user who doesn't use major roads or motorways (Of which there are many) it would probably seem a good idea. The Government is in a difficult place with this. Public transport was so badly neglected under previous governments that it's not a viable option for most road users. Without that in place, it's hard to tax road users more heavily.

DaveO wrote: This must be a joke right? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/29/road-tax-two-tier-system Why must it be a joke? Just because the Government have proposed it, or because you actually have an issue with it? It seems to make sense to me, if you are a user who doesn't use major roads or motorways (Of which there are many) it would probably seem a good idea. The Government is in a difficult place with this. Public transport was so badly neglected under previous governments that it's not a viable option for most road users. Without that in place, it's hard to tax road users more heavily.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:19 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Why must it be a joke? Just because the Government have proposed it, or because you actually have an issue with it? It seems to make sense to me, if you are a user who doesn't use major roads or motorways (Of which there are many) it would probably seem a good idea.

The Government is in a difficult place with this. Public transport was so badly neglected under previous governments that it's not a viable option for most road users. Without that in place, it's hard to tax road users more heavily.

seems sensible to me, I wish they'd go fruther and abolish road tax etc and just put the price on fuel, why do my parents pay as much road tax as me when I do about 30,000 miles a year more than them? I'd like them to stick 3rd party insurance on the cost of fuel as well, that would go a long way to addressing the issues of un-insured drivers.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:28 am  

The key words here are "could", "proposed", and "we are looking at options." Plus, that article is from the Guardian. An absolute non-story, telling us nowt.

Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:46 am  

ROBINSON wrote:

I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe.

there's quite a few on here that you describe well there ROBINSON.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:51 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government.

I agree. There are far better reasons to bag the government at the moment.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:59 pm  

Not a bad idea actually as you could easily identify which roads were "premium" roads by the fact that they had cameras on them, my wifes car hasn't had a sniff of a motorway in its lifetime so it would be ideal for that - if it weren't for the fact that we only pay £20 a year road tax on it anyway ...

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:07 pm  

ROBINSON wrote: The key words here are "could", "proposed", and "we are looking at options." Plus, that article is from the Guardian. An absolute non-story, telling us nowt. Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe. Will this do? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/new ... nment.html It's a bit silly attacking the source when the story is the issue, not any bias surrounding it. To even think about it is just daft and unfair, as the AA point point out. Plus I would imagine that most people suffer delays and serious congestion on inner city roads or A-roads around towns and cities rather than on the motorways.

ROBINSON wrote: The key words here are "could", "proposed", and "we are looking at options." Plus, that article is from the Guardian. An absolute non-story, telling us nowt. Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe. Will this do? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/new ... nment.html It's a bit silly attacking the source when the story is the issue, not any bias surrounding it. To even think about it is just daft and unfair, as the AA point point out. Plus I would imagine that most people suffer delays and serious congestion on inner city roads or A-roads around towns and cities rather than on the motorways.

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:12 pm  

Have we already forgotten all the fuss surrounding the road-pricing proposals of a few years ago?

I believe it is inevitable, it's just which sucker government will have the balls to introduce it

[DaveO]

Re: April the 1st has come early : Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:30 pm  

ROBINSON wrote: The key words here are "could", "proposed", and "we are looking at options." Plus, that article is from the Guardian. An absolute non-story, telling us nowt. It's also in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9639742/Motorists-to-pay-higher-rate-of-road-tax-for-right-to-drive-on-motorways-under-plans-examined-by-Government.html So now given it has been published in a right wing paper so must obviously be worth your consideration do you have an opinion on this "proposal" or not? It's a more detailed article as well and the AA are quoted making some rather obvious points as to why it is a bad idea. Or are the AA too left wing for you as well and you only take note of what the RAC says? Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe. What makes us cringe is your defense of the government based on the fact its latest hair brained proposal was linked to on here in the Guardian rather than by extolling the merits of what was actually being proposed. It is your usual cop out and believe you me I was not in the slightest bit surprised to see it and I doubt anyone else was either. The proposal is bonkers. The idea people can agree not to use motorways or A roads to get around the country with this enforced by number plate reading cameras all over the place is the nuttiest suggestion I have seen in a long time. What do you think to it? Or don't you actually have an opinion? It's been reported in the Telegraph so you are now free to comment.

ROBINSON wrote: The key words here are "could", "proposed", and "we are looking at options." Plus, that article is from the Guardian. An absolute non-story, telling us nowt. It's also in the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9639742/Motorists-to-pay-higher-rate-of-road-tax-for-right-to-drive-on-motorways-under-plans-examined-by-Government.html So now given it has been published in a right wing paper so must obviously be worth your consideration do you have an opinion on this "proposal" or not? It's a more detailed article as well and the AA are quoted making some rather obvious points as to why it is a bad idea. Or are the AA too left wing for you as well and you only take note of what the RAC says? Dave, I suggest you stop looking for silly reasons to bag the government, using that biased rag as backup, because frankly, you're starting to look bitter, twisted and out of date, and you're making us all cringe. What makes us cringe is your defense of the government based on the fact its latest hair brained proposal was linked to on here in the Guardian rather than by extolling the merits of what was actually being proposed. It is your usual cop out and believe you me I was not in the slightest bit surprised to see it and I doubt anyone else was either. The proposal is bonkers. The idea people can agree not to use motorways or A roads to get around the country with this enforced by number plate reading cameras all over the place is the nuttiest suggestion I have seen in a long time. What do you think to it? Or don't you actually have an opinion? It's been reported in the Telegraph so you are now free to comment.