Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:47 am  

I used to think fracking could be the way forward for us and that the objectors were just NIMBYs but a couple of articles I read this weekend made me think twice: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... nanza.html http://feeds.technologyreview.com/click ... b65895c4a7 Maybe I won't be buying a retirement bungalow on the Fylde just yet...

I used to think fracking could be the way forward for us and that the objectors were just NIMBYs but a couple of articles I read this weekend made me think twice: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... nanza.html http://feeds.technologyreview.com/click ... b65895c4a7 Maybe I won't be buying a retirement bungalow on the Fylde just yet...

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:16 am  

You watch some idiot post 'I don't fracking know'.
The leaning tower of Blackpool would be worth seeing.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:01 pm  

Gerald Weaver wrote: I used to think fracking could be the way forward for us and that the objectors were just NIMBYs but a couple of articles I read this weekend made me think twice: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... nanza.html http://feeds.technologyreview.com/click ... b65895c4a7 Maybe I won't be buying a retirement bungalow on the Fylde just yet... or perhaps?..... An article full of contradictions which fails to articulate anything beyond vague, bland statements. The truth is that the electricity and natural gas prices in the US are twice and three times cheaper than in the UK, and all of this caused by a shale gas bonanza. Why on earth would the situation be any different in the UK? We could also have a law that states that any natural gas obtain from fracking will need to be consumed in the UK, i.e. an export ban. Will an abundance of home-produced natural gas lead to cheaper gas and electricity prices? You bet! Will new jobs be created? Yes! Will the rest of the UK economy benefit from lower energy prices? Absolutely! Will pensioners find it easier to heat their homes and not have to choose between food or heating? Yes, they will. So where is the negative slant in this article coming from? "Maybe such evidence will emerge, maybe it won’t. I just don’t know." Why don't you wait until you make your mind up and then write something that makes sense.

Gerald Weaver wrote: I used to think fracking could be the way forward for us and that the objectors were just NIMBYs but a couple of articles I read this weekend made me think twice: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... nanza.html http://feeds.technologyreview.com/click ... b65895c4a7 Maybe I won't be buying a retirement bungalow on the Fylde just yet... or perhaps?..... An article full of contradictions which fails to articulate anything beyond vague, bland statements. The truth is that the electricity and natural gas prices in the US are twice and three times cheaper than in the UK, and all of this caused by a shale gas bonanza. Why on earth would the situation be any different in the UK? We could also have a law that states that any natural gas obtain from fracking will need to be consumed in the UK, i.e. an export ban. Will an abundance of home-produced natural gas lead to cheaper gas and electricity prices? You bet! Will new jobs be created? Yes! Will the rest of the UK economy benefit from lower energy prices? Absolutely! Will pensioners find it easier to heat their homes and not have to choose between food or heating? Yes, they will. So where is the negative slant in this article coming from? "Maybe such evidence will emerge, maybe it won’t. I just don’t know." Why don't you wait until you make your mind up and then write something that makes sense.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:08 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

...So where is the negative slant in this article coming from? "Maybe such evidence will emerge, maybe it won’t. I just don’t know." Why don't you wait until you make your mind up and then write something that makes sense.[/i]

Sounds to me like the slant is coming from a very harsh monetarist belief.
Sounds like he wants a lot more austerity and is afraid that cheaper fuel will slow that down.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:48 pm  

The problem in the UK is that we are gegraphically small and the risks of exploiting oil shale so close to population centres could be disatrous - eg ground-wate contamination. Not that that will worry our desperate, short-term politicians.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:57 pm  

Dally wrote:

The problem in the UK is that we are gegraphically small and the risks of exploiting oil shale so close to population centres could be disatrous - eg ground-wate contamination. Not that that will worry our desperate, short-term politicians.

It's Lancashire, who cares if it ends up like an oil delta in Nigeria

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:01 pm  

rover49 wrote:

It's Lancashire, who cares if it ends up like an oil delta in Nigeria

Isn't there a place in Notts / Lincs too? The latter may be near to you?

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:21 pm  

Dally wrote:

Isn't there a place in Notts / Lincs too? The latter may be near to you?

Scabs and Yellowbellies?

Nah, nowhere near us my old cocksparrow.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:58 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

You watch some idiot post 'I don't fracking know'.

Frack off.

Re: Is fracking the answer? : Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:24 pm  

Is cracking the ground open using a cocktail of highly-toxic, carcinogenic, mutagenic, lysogenic non-biodegradable agents (not including those which even the US government is prevented from identifying as they are classified as "secret patents"), perfected by the notorious war profiteers, Halliburton, in order to tap natural gas reserves via a negative net-energy process during times of energy depletion, the answer?

The answer to what?