Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:01 am  

The Director General of the Institute of Economic Affairs believes it's the way forward. It's not naming and shaming, not according to him, anyway? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2346714/Why-Osborne-publish-names-benefits-claimant--pay-An-incendiary-idea-save-500m-A-DAY-welfare-bill.html

The Director General of the Institute of Economic Affairs believes it's the way forward. It's not naming and shaming, not according to him, anyway? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2346714/Why-Osborne-publish-names-benefits-claimant--pay-An-incendiary-idea-save-500m-A-DAY-welfare-bill.html

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:23 am  

Mark Littlewood, Director General of The Institute of Economic Affairs, or as he will forthwith be referred to for the rest of time "A Fookin Idiot".

And this is where I do something that I never thought I would, I feel pity for George Osborne, for George Osborne has to answer to these sort of people every day - when I was younger I genuinely thought that Chancellors like Anthony Barber were very clever accountants who actually handled the day to day job of running the finances of a whole country, a bit like a Financial Directors job, but on a huge scale - of course we all realise now that the office of the Chancellor of the Exchequer is just a figurehead, a pretty-boy face to offer to the public, indeed the office of Prime Minister is much the same, someone to wheel out when waving on the doorstep or shaking hands with foreigner figureheads is needed - the real work of running the finances and other political strategy is done by committee, mouthpieces and pressure groups - usually the ones who contribute most to the party in power.

Poor old George Osborne has to sit and read and sit and listen to idiots like Mark Littlewood every day of the week whilst at the same time thinking "You're a fookin idiot pal, but I can't say that to your face so how do I shake your hand and get you out of my office without you knowing that I know you're a fookin idiot?"

If the likes of Mark Littlewood weren't actually so influential then you could have a good laugh about it.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:56 am  

I have an alternative idea: why not publish the names and profits of all the private landlords who are the real reason the housing benefit bill is so high, with over 80% of all those claiming housing benefit being in work.

While we're at it, let's publish the names of every company that profits from paying at least some of its workers so little that they need in-work benefits to survive.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:17 am  

Mintball wrote:

I have an alternative idea: why not publish the names and profits of all the private landlords who are the real reason the housing benefit bill is so high, with over 80% of all those claiming housing benefit being in work.

While we're at it, let's publish the names of every company that profits from paying at least some of its workers so little that they need in-work benefits to survive.

After all Boycott Workfare supporters and UK Uncut are far too reasonable to start taking up pitchforks and burning torches and assaulting imagined benefit cheats. They are generous and fair-minded people

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:22 am  

Mintball wrote:

I have an alternative idea: why not publish the names and profits of all the private landlords who are the real reason the housing benefit bill is so high, with over 80% of all those claiming housing benefit being in work

Yep, and adding to that, a government set minimum wage, which has never risen above poverty pay (therefore benefit assisted) has ultimately been the failure of the left, and sadly not a success story as many would claim.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:37 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Yep, and adding to that, a government set minimum wage, which has never risen above poverty pay (therefore benefit assisted) has ultimately been the failure of the left, and sadly not a success story as many would claim.

Worth noting that there are suggestions that this government will move to scrap it altogether.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:41 am  

Mintball wrote:

Worth noting that there are suggestions that this government will move to scrap it altogether.

Aye, and I would fight tooth and nail to keep it, as many fought to have it installed.
I think you understand my thinking though Minty.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:49 am  

Well either the DM site has been trolled or even the rabid DMites think its a step too far. The comments are mostly against the suggestion.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:55 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Aye, and I would fight tooth and nail to keep it, as many fought to have it installed.
I think you understand my thinking though Minty.

Oh, I do entirely.

And yes, it's far too low – given all those other factors.

As only a slight aside, you really would think that the recent hand-wringing over the continued levels of inflation (the reported stuff), together with the continued downward pressure, would have provoked a general admission and acceptance that wages are not the cause, per se, of inflation.

Re: Let's draw up a list? : Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:47 am  

Mintball wrote:

As only a slight aside, you really would think that the recent hand-wringing over the continued levels of inflation (the reported stuff), together with the continued downward pressure, would have provoked a general admission and acceptance that wages are not the cause, per se, of inflation.

Before that admission is made there should be an admission by "economists" and "financial planners" and "political advisers" from all over the world that, actually, not only do wage levels not affect inflation, but that no-one in the whole world actually understands how any of this works, no one.

Its why, when they give you financial advice, they are very careful to tell you that "THIS can happen" but also and at the same time "THAT can happen", its a bit like asking a tipster for advice on which horse to back in any given race and he tells you to back them all, just in case.