Immigration - A New Debate ? : Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:59 am  

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/18/uk-migrants_n_3615076.html?utm_hp_ref=uk Well who wudda thunk it ? We NEED MORE Immigration to support the likes of me who, hopefully, if the wind blows in the right direction and all the dice fall in my favour, is looking forward to being a drain on society in nine years and two months (not that I'm counting or anything). Makes sense too, for decades politicians have been wittering on about how an increasing retired population cannot possibly be supported by a decreasing working population - well here's the answer George - get those border control gates open and lets have some of those Romanians and Bulgarians before any other EU country makes a bid for them. And they can pay for my pension and bloody sod the lot of you

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/18/uk-migrants_n_3615076.html?utm_hp_ref=uk Well who wudda thunk it ? We NEED MORE Immigration to support the likes of me who, hopefully, if the wind blows in the right direction and all the dice fall in my favour, is looking forward to being a drain on society in nine years and two months (not that I'm counting or anything). Makes sense too, for decades politicians have been wittering on about how an increasing retired population cannot possibly be supported by a decreasing working population - well here's the answer George - get those border control gates open and lets have some of those Romanians and Bulgarians before any other EU country makes a bid for them. And they can pay for my pension and bloody sod the lot of you

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:45 am  

IMHO, both current and previous governments have got it wrong. Labour were too lax in some areas and too tough in others, and the coalition, supported by the kind of nonsensical bluster and dogwhistle kneejerkery discussed elsewhere on the Sin Bin, have made things far too tough. Businesses are finding it too tough and expensive to recruit the right staff, British citizens who happen to fall in love with someone from outside the EU are having their relationships split asunder by draconian new rules.

We do need a new debate on immigration, but unfortunately we won't get a sensible one.

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:14 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

We NEED MORE Immigration to support the likes of me who, hopefully, if the wind blows in the right direction and all the dice fall in my favour, is looking forward to being a drain on society in nine years and two months (not that I'm counting or anything).

Drains on society are bad.

I propose a sensible investment on wind control and weighted dice so that these leeches on society are eradicated.

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:22 pm  

I can't wait for my £150 a week back hander so as not to work any more, I will be a right miserable old git, take my dog for a walk on a string to the post office every week and insist that they still pay me in cash, spend forever at the counter until several people are stuck in the queue and then start on about the cost of a first class stamp these days.

Thats assuming that we still have post offices of course otherwise I'll do the same at the local DHL office.

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:11 pm  

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/matt-hancock-business-duty_n_3657472.html?utm_hp_ref=uk In other news today a Tory minister insists that businesses should employ British workers as the economy starts to pick up, in preference to EU migrant workers and in doing so kicks off a spat with Nigel Farage who must by now be sick and tired of having the wind taken out of his sails by meaningless pronouncements from Tory Central Office, the only thing that Farage campaigns on and the Tories are nicking all his best ideas. And then towards the bottom of that article is a quote from Labour's immigration spokesman who has a pop at the hospitality, construction and agriculture industries for not doing enough to employ British workers above EU migrants and he too spectacularly misses the point that its not usually the first thing on an employers mind that they must have some of these foreign johnnies in their new vancancies, but merely "how cheap can we get some bodies in these seats, minimum wage prefered".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/matt-hancock-business-duty_n_3657472.html?utm_hp_ref=uk In other news today a Tory minister insists that businesses should employ British workers as the economy starts to pick up, in preference to EU migrant workers and in doing so kicks off a spat with Nigel Farage who must by now be sick and tired of having the wind taken out of his sails by meaningless pronouncements from Tory Central Office, the only thing that Farage campaigns on and the Tories are nicking all his best ideas. And then towards the bottom of that article is a quote from Labour's immigration spokesman who has a pop at the hospitality, construction and agriculture industries for not doing enough to employ British workers above EU migrants and he too spectacularly misses the point that its not usually the first thing on an employers mind that they must have some of these foreign johnnies in their new vancancies, but merely "how cheap can we get some bodies in these seats, minimum wage prefered".

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:19 pm  

I read earlier in the week that in the last 12 months hundreds more elderly people a week are dying under NHS care in certain areas than was the case previously or than expected. Unsurprisingly, the extra deaths are concerntrated in poor areas. An investigation into the causes is under way - but it makes you wonder about all this "drain on the nation" stuff doesn't it. So when Jerry Chicken looks forward to becoming a drain then unless he is a man of means I'd suggest he keeps working just in case the State .....

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:23 pm  

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/racist-van-home-office-immigration_n_3658580.html?utm_hp_ref=uk And in yet more news a brilliant new campaign of disruption seems to be growing nicely against "The Racist Van".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/racist-van-home-office-immigration_n_3658580.html?utm_hp_ref=uk And in yet more news a brilliant new campaign of disruption seems to be growing nicely against "The Racist Van".

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:39 pm  

I thought hundreds of millions of our illegal immigrants don't even speak English so how will they be able to read the billboards? How's this going to stop them abusing our hospitality?

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:48 pm  

JerryChicken wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/matt-hancock-business-duty_n_3657472.html?utm_hp_ref=uk In other news today a Tory minister insists that businesses should employ British workers as the economy starts to pick up, in preference to EU migrant workers and in doing so kicks off a spat with Nigel Farage who must by now be sick and tired of having the wind taken out of his sails by meaningless pronouncements from Tory Central Office, the only thing that Farage campaigns on and the Tories are nicking all his best ideas. And then towards the bottom of that article is a quote from Labour's immigration spokesman who has a pop at the hospitality, construction and agriculture industries for not doing enough to employ British workers above EU migrants and he too spectacularly misses the point that its not usually the first thing on an employers mind that they must have some of these foreign johnnies in their new vancancies, but merely "how cheap can we get some bodies in these seats, minimum wage prefered". Its a two way street though. People here have got to want to work for these businesses and sectors. Its up to them to make the jobs attractive or people will not bother. Interested that our political masters ( ) aren't suggesting that people go to get jobs in other EU states, as they are perfectly entitled to do, of course.

JerryChicken wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/matt-hancock-business-duty_n_3657472.html?utm_hp_ref=uk In other news today a Tory minister insists that businesses should employ British workers as the economy starts to pick up, in preference to EU migrant workers and in doing so kicks off a spat with Nigel Farage who must by now be sick and tired of having the wind taken out of his sails by meaningless pronouncements from Tory Central Office, the only thing that Farage campaigns on and the Tories are nicking all his best ideas. And then towards the bottom of that article is a quote from Labour's immigration spokesman who has a pop at the hospitality, construction and agriculture industries for not doing enough to employ British workers above EU migrants and he too spectacularly misses the point that its not usually the first thing on an employers mind that they must have some of these foreign johnnies in their new vancancies, but merely "how cheap can we get some bodies in these seats, minimum wage prefered". Its a two way street though. People here have got to want to work for these businesses and sectors. Its up to them to make the jobs attractive or people will not bother. Interested that our political masters ( ) aren't suggesting that people go to get jobs in other EU states, as they are perfectly entitled to do, of course.

Re: Immigration - A New Debate ? : Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:11 pm  

JerryChicken wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/racist-van-home-office-immigration_n_3658580.html?utm_hp_ref=uk And in yet more news a brilliant new campaign of disruption seems to be growing nicely against "The Racist Van". Did you hear him being interviewed? If back peddling were an Olympic sport he be a cert for Rio.

JerryChicken wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/26/racist-van-home-office-immigration_n_3658580.html?utm_hp_ref=uk And in yet more news a brilliant new campaign of disruption seems to be growing nicely against "The Racist Van". Did you hear him being interviewed? If back peddling were an Olympic sport he be a cert for Rio.