Benefits Cap Is Legal : Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:01 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24818747 Good. The old rules encouraged feckless behaviour; and there was something terribly wrong with the idea that people could get more in benefit payments than the average household earns. No doubt there will now be endless appeals...all funded by legal aid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24818747 Good. The old rules encouraged feckless behaviour; and there was something terribly wrong with the idea that people could get more in benefit payments than the average household earns. No doubt there will now be endless appeals...all funded by legal aid.

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:24 pm  

Couldn't agree more.

Legal, right and popular.

£500 per week is still more than a lot of people get!

[DaveO]

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:24 am  

It might be legal but its only right with people to thick to understand real problems and only popular with the ignorant.

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:26 am  

Abolition of living fun – illegal.

Abolition of living fun – illegal.

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:43 am  

The Video Ref wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24818747

Good.

The old rules encouraged feckless behaviour; and there was something terribly wrong with the idea that people could get more in benefit payments than the average household earns.

So what do you suppose they do? In the example you provide above. Three single mothers of young children. What do they do now?

No doubt there will now be endless appeals...all funded by legal aid.

Well yes, poor people do have the right to legal representation. Its called justice for all.

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:25 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Well yes, poor people do have the right to legal representation. Its called justice for all.

Given the proposed restrictions to legal aid and judicial reviews, you have to wonder how much longer justice will be available to those who cannot afford it?

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:56 pm  

DaveO wrote:

It might be legal but its only right with people to thick to understand real problems and only popular with the ignorant.

You really should sort your own spelling and grammar, before calling other people out as thick.

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:06 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

So what do you suppose they do? In the example you provide above. Three single mothers of young children. What do they do now?

Take the cut like everyone else is going to have to.

People are going to have to start living responsibly, within their own means, and not just using the state as a cash-cow.

You would have to earn somewhere in the region of £35K before you can put £500 p/w in your pocket as net income. One of these mothers has 6 (yes, 6) kids. Benefits should be there to support the most needy, not to encourage people to turn themselves into baby-making factories.

Well yes, poor people do have the right to legal representation. Its called justice for all.

Increasingly, you will find they don't. Legal Aid has pretty much gone for everything except crime, dental negligence (bizarrely) and matters of public policy (like this one).

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:24 pm  

The Video Ref wrote: Take the cut like everyone else is going to have to. People are going to have to start living responsibly, within their own means, and not just using the state as a cash-cow. You would have to earn somewhere in the region of £35K before you can put £500 p/w in your pocket as net income. One of these mothers has 6 (yes, 6) kids. Benefits should be there to support the most needy, not to encourage people to turn themselves into baby-making factories. Increasingly, you will find they don't. Legal Aid has pretty much gone for everything except crime, dental negligence (bizarrely) and matters of public policy (like this one). You need to stop reading the DM and start reading this:- http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... acts-myths

The Video Ref wrote: Take the cut like everyone else is going to have to. People are going to have to start living responsibly, within their own means, and not just using the state as a cash-cow. You would have to earn somewhere in the region of £35K before you can put £500 p/w in your pocket as net income. One of these mothers has 6 (yes, 6) kids. Benefits should be there to support the most needy, not to encourage people to turn themselves into baby-making factories. Increasingly, you will find they don't. Legal Aid has pretty much gone for everything except crime, dental negligence (bizarrely) and matters of public policy (like this one). You need to stop reading the DM and start reading this:- http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... acts-myths

Re: Benefits Cap Is Legal : Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:24 pm  

The Video Ref wrote:

Take the cut like everyone else is going to have to.

People are going to have to start living responsibly, within their own means, and not just using the state as a cash-cow.

You would have to earn somewhere in the region of £35K before you can put £500 p/w in your pocket as net income. One of these mothers has 6 (yes, 6) kids. Benefits should be there to support the most needy, not to encourage people to turn themselves into baby-making factories.

Daily Mail Editorial alert!

How many of the kids did she have befeore having to go on benefits?

How much of a "cut" are you taking if "everyone" has to?