Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:44 pm  

It's official austerity is over!

Further to Cameron's pledge to spend whatever it takes when asked to divert money from foreign aid to flood victims, he was reported as saying yesterday that as a rich country with a growing economy we don't need to choose between the two. So, there should be plenty of money for NHS healthcare and books for schools. Whoopee!

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:08 pm  

Let's wait until he overturns the plan to axe a further 1,400 Environment Agency staff this year, together with maintaining a block on revenue spending – ie maintenance and repair – on flood defences – as opposed simply to capital investment in new flood defences.

The Treasury has a test for all such spending: that for every £1 spent, it saves £8 in the future. Yet while the Hastings by-pass, for which no such benefit has been shown, has been given the go ahead, that maintenance and repair has been put on hold. And this despite the government's own science advisors telling it that, in the coming 20 years, climate change will mean more events such as this, with a concomitant quadrupling of the number of homes at risk.

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:26 pm  

Its OK, Billy Pickles is waiting until he can deal with experts and then we'll be alright

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:36 pm  

Mintball wrote:

And this despite the government's own science advisors telling it that, in the coming 20 years, climate change will mean more events such as this, with a concomitant quadrupling of the number of homes at risk.

Yes, but they are already questioning whether it's worth the cost of defending Somerset, East Anglia, Lincolnshire and Yorkshire! So, not an issue for governmemt.

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:50 pm  

all those big detached houses and range rovers flooded....spend spend spend!

aslong as they did they do the same for hull and cumbria

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:51 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Its OK, Billy Pickles is waiting until he can deal with experts and then we'll be alright

We don't need any more barrages, just lay that fat 2@ in th line of any flooding

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:51 pm  

It's a given that having your house flooded is a royal pain in the booty, but I can't help compare the attitudes of the Somerset people, who have been flooded for weeks, with the whinging pouty mouthed residents of the Thames valley, who were demanding help from the Army,even before their designer waders had got wet.

It may have escaped their notice that the Army is a tad busy at the moment, and perhaps an appeal to the Navy, who have access to lots of different boats, and are not exactly run of their feet at the moment, might have made a bit more sense. In any case, if you can afford the prices being asked for a riverside Thames property, you surely can stump up 50k to install an effective flood prevention measures on your property. Even Paul Daniels had the foresight to do that!

Sky did a piece today in which they interviewed two complaining women, who were demanding to know just what had been done since the last flooding in January. I would simply have asked the pair of them, just what, if any precautions they, as the homeowners had taken to protect their property.... I suspect the answer is sweet FA!

Oh, and can we have an end to those ridiculous staged photo shoots where posturing politicians in their just bought wellingtons, gaze earnestly into the far distance.

One king Canute was enough, thank you.

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:08 pm  

I can sympathise with the rich folk bordering the Thames, it can't be nice to have your swimming pool flooded with water.

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:10 pm  

This was taken from my van, near Bradfield (between Reading & Newbury) on Friday. While many of my customers fall into the "super rich" bracket, many more do not, lots pf Thames' tributaries like the River Pang have overflowed and flooded even council houses, so you don't have to be in the supertax bracket to suffer.

Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity : Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:26 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Let's wait until he overturns the plan to axe a further 1,400 Environment Agency staff this year, together with maintaining a block on revenue spending – ie maintenance and repair – on flood defences – as opposed simply to capital investment in new flood defences.

The Treasury has a test for all such spending: that for every £1 spent, it saves £8 in the future. Yet while the Hastings by-pass, for which no such benefit has been shown, has been given the go ahead, that maintenance and repair has been put on hold. And this despite the government's own science advisors telling it that, in the coming 20 years, climate change will mean more events such as this, with a concomitant quadrupling of the number of homes at risk.

Taken from another site:

They were interviewing someone from the EA on the news a few days ago and he was saying that several years ago, conditions were brought in by legislation by the last government as to how the EA were able to spend their flood defence money. The three considerations are -

For each pound spent in flood defences, they have to show that it will save £8 worth of property,

The money must first be spent on the places with the largest and poorest population, &

The money must be spent where flood defences will protect the most property.

The chap said that this is the main reason millions had been spent in large towns and cities and hardly anything in small towns, villages and the countryside.