Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:52 am  

Those in charge of social services and the police should own up to their responsibilities and do the honourable thing.

This is a disgrace, how can this go on unchecked for so long on such a huge scale?

What does it say about society that we 'apparently' place more gravitas on PC than we do protecting the well being of vulnerable young children.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:39 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Those in charge of social services and the police should own up to their responsibilities and do the honourable thing.

This is a disgrace, how can this go on unchecked for so long on such a huge scale?

What does it say about society that we 'apparently' place more gravitas on PC than we do protecting the well being of vulnerable young children.

Hardly confined to Rotherham, sadly. Police / LAs seem to sweep child protection issues under the carpet everywhere.

The problem here seems the racially aggravated criminality of a sexually repressed element of the 'Pakistani' "community" and the failure of the political system to uphold the law of the land fairly and equally across different ethnic groups. Seems their is a fear among politicians of both major parties of ethnic minorities rioting / violence between different ethnic groups. Politicians have created this "multi-cultural" monster and must start treating all equally. If people don't like it and choose to riot, etc then the law should deal with them forcefully.

The sooner the country faces up to its new reality and gets everyone treated as one people the better. Failure to do so will only lead to further problems down the line. Much better to get a bit of civil unrest now (if that's what happens) by dispensing justice properly rather than building a much bleaker, more violent future for Britain.

As to the Rotherham case - castrate every last one of the perpetrators (retrospective change in law needed) and long jail sentences for all senior LA officers / police officers involved in sweeping under the carpet. Start making examples.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:39 am  

I did hear on the news last night about authorities not wanting to bring attention to the race of the perpetrators, or at least the pattern that shows that a large amount of wrongdoers are Asian, for fear of racist claims.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:03 am  

I'll wait until a little more information is available before making any pronouncements, some of us are old enough to remember the Cleveland Child Sex Scandal and just how that panned out.

A couple of points to remember: there were few/no Asians involved with Jimmy Savile, Stuart Hall et al or the Kincora Boys' School, or Elm View Guest House.

There appears to be a disconnect between the police investigating claims of abuse and certain members of society in general

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:16 am  

Yet another example of Asian gangs targeting white underage girls, whilst the Authorities look the other way.

There is something rank within this community which produces both terrorists and peadophiles in such profusion. And it is long past time, for those within those communities, who are so quick to air their Politically Correct views, to acknowledge their failures to address the situation.

I would hope for a widespread condemnation from every Iman at Friday Prayers this week, and perhaps a contrite apology from Baroness Warsi wouldn't go amiss......but I'm not holding my breath.

It goes without saying, that anyone named in the Report, should not be allowed to resign, with the usual sanctimonius Mea Culpa, but sacked immediately.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:41 am  

I'd like to see how she has managed to work out that there were 1,400 victims.

And seeing that police and social services are blamed for their negligence, I wonder how all the victims are going to be compensated.

But at least racist people will be allowed to feel justified in their racism and the cops can get a kicking.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:13 am  

Mr Fish makes a valid point that this behaviour is not exclusive to certain groups in society. However for another poster to suggest anyone who raises this issue is a racist because it involves members of the Pakistani community is ridiculous.

Lord Jose are you suggesting we should only raise this if it involves white British individuals? Perhaps you are suggesting it didn't happen and this is smear campaign against this community?

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:16 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Mr Fish makes a valid point that this behaviour is not exclusive to certain groups in society. However for another poster to suggest anyone who raises this issue is a racist because it involves members of the Pakistani community is ridiculous.

Lord Jose are you suggesting we should only raise this if it involves white British individuals? Perhaps you are suggesting it didn't happen and this is smear campaign against this community?

They were not my words, they were a quote from CH4 news.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:34 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Mr Fish makes a valid point that this behaviour is not exclusive to certain groups in society. However for another poster to suggest anyone who raises this issue is a racist because it involves members of the Pakistani community is ridiculous.

Lord Jose are you suggesting we should only raise this if it involves white British individuals? Perhaps you are suggesting it didn't happen and this is smear campaign against this community?

I said racist people will feel justified in their racism. Which they clearly will.

I think that the main reason that the police won't have acted on the suspicions is because direct accusations weren't made to the police. I'm reading the report right now and it's outlining what she thinks happened. On one case a group of social workers held a presentation where they named the men involved in operating child prostitution and the houses where it happened. But no mention is actually made of passing on this information to the police.

I'm not suggesting it didn't happen, as convictions have been secured and a child was found murdered. But I am suggesting that the numbers are massively inflated.

Re: Rotherham : Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:48 am  

I may be naive here but I would've thought that any meeting where such allegations were raised would be minuted and those minutes should be in existence. If so, they or a precis should be made publicly available