Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:04 pm  

Question for you Stanley - If you jump into the air on a moving train, do you land in the same spot or slightly further back?

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:12 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

Question for you Stanley - If you jump into the air on a moving train, do you land in the same spot or slightly further back?

We aren't talking about a simple one foot jump or leap from a moving train We are talking about a transatlantic flight lasting hours and hours. By your "train' jumping" analogy, I could jump perpendicular from a train moving at 60 mph, hang glide off a mountain top in direction I jumped, then hit the ground going 60 mph in the trains original direction. Thanks for 'clearing' things up though. :thumb:

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:22 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

We aren't talking about a simple one foot jump or leap from a moving train We are talking about a transatlantic flight lasting hours and hours. By your "train' jumping" analogy, I could jump perpendicular from a train moving at 60 mph, hang glide off a mountain top in direction I jumped, then hit the ground going 60 mph in the trains original direction. Thanks for 'clearing' things up though. :thumb:

WHOOSH......!

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:26 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

What a lovely Christian you are.

You do realise that 'blasphemy' is basically outrage from those insecure in their own faith? I'm not allowed to criticize your ridiculous belief? Why not? If you exchange your God for an iceberg lettuce it seems silly yes? At least Lettuce exists I suppose...The difference between your God and the hundreds of thousands of other gods consigned to history is time. One day it will be classed as mythology like all the rest. You do realise that if you were born in Saudi Arabia you'd be writing about your faith in Allah, or if you were born in Japan you would follow shinto. They all think they're right to. Your belief is an accident of geography and culture, yet you expect me to not question this 'faith'? A belief without evidence?

It's a shame that your whole existence revolves around this ridiculous interpretation of the writings of bronze-age sheep-herders. What a waste of life.

Insecurity is proven with your poll suggestion. I'm sure Stan will forgive you.!

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:34 pm  

whothefeckisalice wrote:

Insecurity is proven with your poll suggestion. I'm sure Stan will forgive you.!

Are you and I reading the same forums?

Odd.

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:47 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

Are you and I reading the same forums? Odd.. As for losing the plot, you might want to run a forum poll to see who else agrees with you

Are you on the right forum. Amnesia setting in through the angst.

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:48 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Are you on the right forum. Amnesia setting in through the angst.

Flex the vex. Ha

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:52 pm  

whothefeckisalice wrote:

Flex the vex. Ha

Hahaha he's a wounded Zebra at the minute. Better leave him alone.

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:18 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Hahahaha. Keep digging your hole.

One of us is making himself look foolish, and it's not me. But your style (example "Hahaha Keep digging your hole") is a bit pathetic for a supposed adult involved in an adult discussion. But, you are only showing yourself up. Your choice.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

If the atmosphere is spinning with the globe then westward travelling planes are travelling against the earths spin at -500 mph. Meaning they should reach their destination quicker. Gotcha Again.

Innumerate nonsense, I'm afraid. As the atmosphere is rotating at the same speed as the ground surface (broadly speaking) the plane flying at 500 mph west will cross the ground at the same rate as would a jet powered road vehicle driving the same way at a similar speed.
Can you explain why you still keep making the same mistake over and over again? Your proposition is an obvious non sequitur.

Planes are neither travelling "with" the Earth's spin, nor "against" the Earth's spin. The earth's spin is irrelevant to flight times. The only frames of reference of relevance to the plane and its passengers are (a) its airspeed and (b) its groundspeed.

Once airborne, all the plane has to do is use its engines to push its way through the mass of the atmosphere until it reaches its destination. The rotation of the Earth is not material to the issue. In broad terms, the atmosphere is as a whole rotating at the same speed as the rest of the planet, and that is the reason.

As I keep saying, but as you improbably feign not to understand.

Re: Flight tracking : Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:01 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Once airborne, all the plane has to do is use its engines to push its way through the mass of the atmosphere until it reaches its destination. The rotation of the Earth is not material to the issue. In broad terms, the atmosphere is as a whole rotating at the same speed as the rest of the planet, and that is the reason.. Keep digging. Your broad terms are again blown out the water. If the atmosphere is spinning with the so called planet its travelling with the 1000 mph Eastward spin then as you highlighted above its travelling too at 1000 mph meaning it affects all motion including westward bound flights. You can't have a global atmospheric eastward spin of 1000 mph and it not affect a westward bound flight. The reason flight times are identical both ways is because the Earth is stationary Explained thoroughly Here You're making a fool of yourself. You can't have it both ways to suit your argument. Yeah the Earths 1000 mph eastward spin doesn't count on earth. Jargon.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Once airborne, all the plane has to do is use its engines to push its way through the mass of the atmosphere until it reaches its destination. The rotation of the Earth is not material to the issue. In broad terms, the atmosphere is as a whole rotating at the same speed as the rest of the planet, and that is the reason.. Keep digging. Your broad terms are again blown out the water. If the atmosphere is spinning with the so called planet its travelling with the 1000 mph Eastward spin then as you highlighted above its travelling too at 1000 mph meaning it affects all motion including westward bound flights. You can't have a global atmospheric eastward spin of 1000 mph and it not affect a westward bound flight. The reason flight times are identical both ways is because the Earth is stationary Explained thoroughly Here You're making a fool of yourself. You can't have it both ways to suit your argument. Yeah the Earths 1000 mph eastward spin doesn't count on earth. Jargon.