Condition of ground : Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:25 pm  

Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551

Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551

Re: Condition of ground : Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:44 pm  

chinaman wrote: Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551 Oh eck you have started something now. My view is the lads at the Shay are good lads and good groundsmen BUT they have been allowed to become TOO IMPORTANT, almost God like by not being managed. Why do I sat that? Well take a look at the barriers in the South Stand, why have they not been painted for years and years and are now rusting??? This should be part of the groundmens job and there are TWO of them plus a Stadium Manager. If some people come on here having a go at us for discussing this on here well tough, we pay thses guys wages now as Council taxpayers so we have a right to comment. I must add though that Fax should respect the pitch yes, if the training is outside the 'quota' of hours the club has then its not on, if it is part of the hours we have now not having a U21s or Reserves then tough, you do not dictate to a client who is paying you in my book.

chinaman wrote: Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551 Oh eck you have started something now. My view is the lads at the Shay are good lads and good groundsmen BUT they have been allowed to become TOO IMPORTANT, almost God like by not being managed. Why do I sat that? Well take a look at the barriers in the South Stand, why have they not been painted for years and years and are now rusting??? This should be part of the groundmens job and there are TWO of them plus a Stadium Manager. If some people come on here having a go at us for discussing this on here well tough, we pay thses guys wages now as Council taxpayers so we have a right to comment. I must add though that Fax should respect the pitch yes, if the training is outside the 'quota' of hours the club has then its not on, if it is part of the hours we have now not having a U21s or Reserves then tough, you do not dictate to a client who is paying you in my book.

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: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:55 pm  

I doubt the guys can do anymore down there.

Dont forget they won awards for the pitch not so long ago.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:15 pm  

There is a plethora of libel on that site, they are a set of clowns.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:23 pm  

The pitch would stand up better for both football and rugby if it was not cut to a quarter of an inch three times a week in my opinion.

Re: Condition of ground : Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:25 pm  

chinaman wrote: Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551 Donkeys years ago when the groundsmen were employed by the council as they are now I knew the head groundsman and during certain times of the week you would see him cutting grass elsewhere ,Savile Park and on grass verges up and down.He later went on to be groundsman at Headingly,I wonder what what they have to do during the summer when they don`t have to cut the grass every other day for the puffball.The place looks unkempt do they ever do anything other than cut grass ?

chinaman wrote: Noticed on Sunday that the pitch looked very much the same as it did at the end of the Siddal game, where the pitch had stood up pretty well. A memeber of the Fax staff remarked that nowt had been done to it. Of course it did start raining/snowing.hailing from mid morning onwards but up until 10.30 it was not too bad. At the end of Sundays match it was pretty cut up. Having just spoken to a friend of mine who is a footy season ticket holder he understands the relations between the groundstaff and the Fax coaching staff are at an all time low with accusations of Fax training on the field again and a major row developing. In light of one of the reasons the double header was not allowed was so they could work on the ground in between it seems strange no work had been done after the Siddal game (Finished in dry weather at 2.30pm) or first thing Sunday morning. Just wonder if it is time some better quality groundstaff were employed? Who employs them, is it a part of full time job (just looking after the pitch could be done well and professionally in 2 days a week plus a few hours after each game)? How many of them are they and how experienced are they, have they more allegiance to football?. The only time we see them is when they wander round at half time with those long handled forks poking the divets. We have some very experienced and well qualified groundsmen in Calderdale who could sort out the Shay surface. Perhaps like others at the Shay they are just travelling on the gravy train. Thought these comments on footy web site might be interesting!! http://www.theshaymen.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=2551 Donkeys years ago when the groundsmen were employed by the council as they are now I knew the head groundsman and during certain times of the week you would see him cutting grass elsewhere ,Savile Park and on grass verges up and down.He later went on to be groundsman at Headingly,I wonder what what they have to do during the summer when they don`t have to cut the grass every other day for the puffball.The place looks unkempt do they ever do anything other than cut grass ?

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:33 pm  

why does it always seem that the football fans take issue with us? For gods sake we've been down at the shay for over a decade.... surely they must have gotten used to us by now? Cant they just grow up???

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:37 pm  

As for maintinence (or lack of it) Did anyone see all the water pouring off the roof of the southstand on Sunday? In the corner where the Away team and ref enter the field.

But at the same time I did notice the toilets have being painted, all the wood around the tops of the sinks ect is now a Dark Grey, I'm sure it was the same Blue as the Safety Bars on the terracing before.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:50 pm  

Part the problem is the waste of space footballers! The grass being cut so short does not help it take the punishment of the weather as well as Sports being played on it. And you can see that the pitch is "Marked" around the goal mouths especially

The Soccer muppets as ever decide to blame the Rugby club for its own mistakes and then as ever make stories up which I hope somebody follows through with a court order as some of the stuff must be libel! Its this reason why I would never ever begin to support the soccer club due to the idots who support them. And that group is more than a small number.
Also its a bit rich about saying Fax do not pay their bills-remind me who left debts of million pound or so before going under.

Also the Groundsmans job surely involves more than the pitch-Making sure things are clean, broken fences or facilities are repaired etc. I know its a building site now but I hope in future more attention is payed to other things than just the pitch

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:55 pm  

dont know how they can go on about the state of the pitch, total bozzo's, i still play football on a saturday, and i know where the pitch gets knackerd, in each goal mouth u will find bare patches, on what ever pitch u play on this time of the year,, it just so happens they found a pic of gleeson scoring a try in that very patch,ohh lets blame the rugby for that, sorry boys but u r so so wrong, football does more damage then rugby, get used to the fact,,, and get used to the fact we use the pitch, we pay rent, so wine on as much as u like, we have a first class team, going places, not a second rate pub team, going nowhere