Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 7:04 pm  

The main thing for me is we gift the ball back far too often, either by forward passes when in possession or penalties when defending.
We don't build pressure but invite it on ourselves because of the above.

League position is about right for the level we are playing at the moment.

Manning, Richard Moore stood out with a few others trying hard but we didn't pose enough of a threat as a team, throw in a couple more soft tries conceded and we didn't do enough at either end of the field to get the result today.

Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 7:36 pm  

Marshall appears to lack the leadership to manage the larger squad and keep the team spirit we had last year. I hear that many of the players are very unhappy with the chopping and changing, and the way team selections are made. Seems to be a lot a favouritism with some players selected week in week out despite poor performances and others dropped at the first mistake. I suspect a lot of the quality players who took us into the top four last year will be leaving. Marshall need to get a grip quickly or we haven't a hope of regaining the season. Some of this is lack of experience but he needs to learn to manage the team better.
I personally would like to see the team that worked so well for us last year back on the pitch

Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 7:46 pm  

Do you lads want Rangi? Free to a good home!

Bye Bye Rangi

Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 7:48 pm  

Simfax wrote:

Marshall appears to lack the leadership to manage the larger squad and keep the team spirit we had last year. I hear that many of the players are very unhappy with the chopping and changing, and the way team selections are made. Seems to be a lot a favouritism with some players selected week in week out despite poor performances and others dropped at the first mistake. I suspect a lot of the quality players who took us into the top four last year will be leaving. Marshall need to get a grip quickly or we haven't a hope of regaining the season. Some of this is lack of experience but he needs to learn to manage the team better.
I personally would like to see the team that worked so well for us last year back on the pitch

I doubt that posting on an open forum that you've heard the players may not be happy is going to help. Especially if not true!

As fans we do feel we should be beating Batley, especially after last season. We won't be the last team who feels they should beat them but still end up getting turned over.

I'm sure Richard and the boys are as frustrated as we are but give them a chance - last season we didn't kick on until after the summer bash. Also, remember there is a bigger picture - the club is being rebuilt to be more of a SL prospect - hard I know when you miss out on the capital from the top 4. Look what happened to Sheffield when they went full time!

There's a lot of rugby to play yet

Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 8:52 pm  

I hope there is a contingency plan in place for next season because at the moment we do not look like we have a hope in hell of making the top 4.

Re: Poor : Sun May 15, 2016 9:42 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

I hope there is a contingency plan in place for next season because at the moment we do not look like we have a hope in hell of making the top 4.

You are only 2pts off Fev and Bradford.

What is your run in like? I know you still have to visit the mighty Fortress that is the LSV but surely if you can get a win against Fev at the Summer Bash it is game on again for 4th spot?

Re: Poor : Mon May 16, 2016 5:38 am  

In theory we could be third in two weeks time. But we don't look anywhere near our form of last year. How many times did Tangata break the like last year compared to this? As great as he looks now, he is not being used as effectively as last season.

The body language of the players does not show the confidence of last year. Yesterday every one of those Batley players wanted the ball. Last week against Widnes - every Fax player went looking for involvement. I didn't sense that yesterday.

Perhaps the inconsistency reflects the tactics of The Tinkerman? Are we trying to play too technical? Too much like a SL side with a big squad? This is a more simpler league than SL, perhaps the simple, tested tactics of a coach like John Kear is necessary for this level?

Re: Poor : Mon May 16, 2016 5:43 am  

its no fun losing and less so to Batley. However, I know this wont bring much comfort, but if we had beaten Swinton and Batley at home which I feel we should have we would be sitting 3rd league and we would all be crowing how great we are.
Its a tougher league this year, yes we have our own opinions on who should be playing where and when in the team but we are in the mix for a top 4 spot and I am confident we will get there again. UTFAX!

Re: Poor : Mon May 16, 2016 7:56 am  

we looked a little jaded yesterday and a cup hangover was to be expected imo ( we went to sheffield and lost after wakey in the cup last year)

reading some of the posts on here you'd think that defeat had put us into the bottom 2

a lot of rugby still to be played yet

Re: Poor : Mon May 16, 2016 8:15 am  

Richard Marshall had one good season now everyone is worshiping him. He is not a proven coach and needs to learn and fast.

Scott Murrell needs to either start and then be swapped with johno or move to 13. His fitness his poor and as no pace and keeps getting caught out each week in defense.

What did connor and Johno do wrong to be dropped after last week. Can see them both leaving at the end of the season.

Sharp as improved and as deserved his spot FINALLY

Can not see us getting top 4 or going full time next season unless things change. Changing the team each week is leaving players unhappy.