Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:09 am  

Maybe if he'd spoken in detail to them and decided for whatever reason that it wasnt right, I'd have zero argument...

However he hasnt and like the current Directors is instead choosing to simply ignore what could potentially be a superb way forward for the club... Why would you not want to at least listen to what the plan is, the financial input etc.... Hes sadly been influenced by someone who for personal reasons doesn't like some of those involved. Personal reasons should not come into this, it should merely be whats right for the long term good of the club, whatever that is.

Why would you not want Halifax RLFC to prosper?

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:06 am  

Inoffski1 wrote:

Hearing some of the names that have been bandied around regarding this ‘takeover’ bid one has to question why they are doing it? If they have genuine intentions of putting serious investment into the club then all well and good, but if they are doing it - as some of them have done previously - to give them the right to swan around the dining area posing in their club ties on match days falsely accusing people of being crooked, then I would fully understand why the current shareholders would dismiss it out of hand. Some of the names mentioned have previously been found wanting the club to fail, withdrawing crucial large amounts of sponsorship at the last minute. Are these really the people we want running the club??

Things do need shaking up at the club yes, and at least one member of the board is completely out of his depth. But as the saying goes - be careful what you wish for, you might just get it

Bang on. Please god tell me its not some of the same people. You have to ask anyone who is willing to put the club at risk in the past, should they be allowed anywhere near the club again?

Just a couple of questions though. First one is whats in it for them? As griff mentions, any money pumped in to a rugby club is not an investment but rather money that will never be seen again. Also if I had a multim million compnany and had some spare cash that I wanted to "invest" in a rugby club then I would just put that money in be it through gifts or sponsorship. Roger Harvey has been a great example of this in the past.

The second question is how does it work having 10 people, who you would presume have decent sized egos, all putting their money in to the same pot. In my opinion that would be a recipe for disaster and again look at Leigh and look how that turned out. At some point that 10 will be whittled down through in fighting to 2 or 3 people at most and could end up tearing the club apart.

May as well add a 3rd question, as it is the club is sustainable as a top 5 team and will be going forward but an investment of 200k a year is nowhere near enough to get us anywhere near to been a SL club so again what is the point? An investment of 4 maybe even 5 times that amount a season may get us to the point of competing with both Toulouse and London next season and then from that point with the expansion teams coming in we would be pouring money in to a bottomless pit with little hope of making SL. Again what is in it for them?

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:26 am  

chris_smith wrote:

Maybe if he'd spoken in detail to them and decided for whatever reason that it wasnt right, I'd have zero argument...

However he hasnt and like the current Directors is instead choosing to simply ignore what could potentially be a superb way forward for the club... Why would you not want to at least listen to what the plan is, the financial input etc.... Hes sadly been influenced by someone who for personal reasons doesn't like some of those involved. Personal reasons should not come into this, it should merely be whats right for the long term good of the club, whatever that is.

Why would you not want Halifax RLFC to prosper?

I think it rather obvious as to who some of these people are due to then posting the links to this forum on social media. Not the way to go about things in my opinion and trying to get fans to put pressure on the club. If Michael steele is majority shareholder and doesn’t want to sell them to this group of people then that’s his prerogative.

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:43 am  

Faxhali wrote:

I think it rather obvious as to who some of these people are due to then posting the links to this forum on social media. Not the way to go about things in my opinion and trying to get fans to put pressure on the club. If Michael steele is majority shareholder and doesn’t want to sell them to this group of people then that’s his prerogative.

You're assuming there that Michael Steele has been approached to sell... thought it was the board who won't meet them, hence the post. Michael's not on the board.

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:58 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Bang on. Please god tell me its not some of the same people. You have to ask anyone who is willing to put the club at risk in the past, should they be allowed anywhere near the club again?

Just a couple of questions though. First one is whats in it for them? As griff mentions, any money pumped in to a rugby club is not an investment but rather money that will never be seen again. Also if I had a multim million compnany and had some spare cash that I wanted to "invest" in a rugby club then I would just put that money in be it through gifts or sponsorship. Roger Harvey has been a great example of this in the past.

The second question is how does it work having 10 people, who you would presume have decent sized egos, all putting their money in to the same pot. In my opinion that would be a recipe for disaster and again look at Leigh and look how that turned out. At some point that 10 will be whittled down through in fighting to 2 or 3 people at most and could end up tearing the club apart.

May as well add a 3rd question, as it is the club is sustainable as a top 5 team and will be going forward but an investment of 200k a year is nowhere near enough to get us anywhere near to been a SL club so again what is the point? An investment of 4 maybe even 5 times that amount a season may get us to the point of competing with both Toulouse and London next season and then from that point with the expansion teams coming in we would be pouring money in to a bottomless pit with little hope of making SL. Again what is in it for them?

I thought Dad and daughter would agree....

Instead of trying to be derogatory and making assumptions around the consortium perhaps it would be better to understand what the plan is, what they bring etc....

Still I expected nothing more from you as the lead brownstuff stirrer

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:42 am  

Where's Sherlock Holmes when you need him?

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:11 am  

chris_smith wrote:

I thought Dad and daughter would agree....

Funniest thing I have read on here in years.

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:44 pm  

I would be grateful if someone could do two things and I think others would as well:-

- Confirm who owns what shares.
- Advise who the "gang of ten" are, or who they think they are. I have heard at least fifteen names, a number of whom don't even buy a round let alone a rugby club.

ta

Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:55 pm  

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Re: Club Takeover : Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:52 pm  

Dbvada wrote: I would be grateful if someone could do two things and I think others would as well:- - Confirm who owns what shares. - Advise who the "gang of ten" are, or who they think they are. I have heard at least fifteen names, a number of whom don't even buy a round let alone a rugby club. ta Look at the confirmation statement here... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06190029/filing-history Shows shareholders as at 4th April.

Dbvada wrote: I would be grateful if someone could do two things and I think others would as well:- - Confirm who owns what shares. - Advise who the "gang of ten" are, or who they think they are. I have heard at least fifteen names, a number of whom don't even buy a round let alone a rugby club. ta Look at the confirmation statement here... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06190029/filing-history Shows shareholders as at 4th April.