Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:10 am  

Listenup94 wrote:

It doesn’t matter how calm and objective I try to be about this incident and whatever reasonable angle I think about it , based on all other comparable instances I cannot come to a 5 match difference in ban time , it’s just ludicrous.

Did anyone's expect owt else though? Personally i did funnily enough. I expected a reduction to 5 matches even though that wouldn't have been correct in my opinion. But hey ho! 8 games it is and I suppose if you don't like it you can lump it or walk away from the game. The trouble is, more and more people are doing just that thanks to the morons running the game.

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:39 am  

It feels like the have tried to save face on this one. Do they post any detail about the reason for their grading and punishment, or some summary of the basis of the appeal and why it was rejected. At the moment there is no transparency or clarity over the variance in the grading and punishments - in fact from an outsiders views it seems you get a lower grading for trying to move a player who was flat out and potentially more seriously injured, than a player who is clearly able to move and appears to be at far less risk of any injury due to a tug of his shirt.

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:45 am  

gizempo wrote:

It feels like the have tried to save face on this one. Do they post any detail about the reason for their grading and punishment, or some summary of the basis of the appeal and why it was rejected. At the moment there is no transparency or clarity over the variance in the grading and punishments - in fact from an outsiders views it seems you get a lower grading for trying to move a player who was flat out and potentially more seriously injured, than a player who is clearly able to move and appears to be at far less risk of any injury due to a tug of his shirt.

Interestingly a lot of the disciplinary processes are discussed on a programme called sin bin and have had Paul Cullen and other members of the panel explaining the process, unfortunately the program hasn’t aired since early June . I have emailed the rfl regarding this , I have had replies on other subjects but I’m still awaiting a response on this .

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:53 am  

Listenup94 wrote:

It doesn’t matter how calm and objective I try to be about this incident and whatever reasonable angle I think about it , based on all other comparable instances I cannot come to a 5 match difference in ban time , it’s just ludicrous.

To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 am  

faxcar wrote: To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban. A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that. It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody. And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical. I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it. If you get some time watch the first 10 minutes of this , even their own reasoning seems to contradict the gwaze incident https://youtu.be/Xe4g_TCFy9M

faxcar wrote: To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban. A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that. It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody. And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical. I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it. If you get some time watch the first 10 minutes of this , even their own reasoning seems to contradict the gwaze incident https://youtu.be/Xe4g_TCFy9M

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:21 pm  

faxcar wrote:

To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.

Wait until you see what they’ve done with the England RL kit for the World Cup (even though they insisted the replicas they sold last year would be used this year…)

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:13 pm  

Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/

Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:10 pm  

Listenup94 wrote: Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/ Thanks for posting that. Taylor makes perfect sense, however a players agent speaking his mind won’t change the RFLs minds because they want to and always have protected the SL players for their income from Sky and their precious top clubs. Titus has lost playing money and by the sound of it is suffering mentally as well which I’m sure the RFL won’t help him with even though they bang on about players welfare. I have no doubt Titus is getting support from the club and his team mates and hopefully he knows all tue Panthers fans are behind him, support him and look forward to when he pulls the blue and white on and gets back on the field.

Listenup94 wrote: Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/ Thanks for posting that. Taylor makes perfect sense, however a players agent speaking his mind won’t change the RFLs minds because they want to and always have protected the SL players for their income from Sky and their precious top clubs. Titus has lost playing money and by the sound of it is suffering mentally as well which I’m sure the RFL won’t help him with even though they bang on about players welfare. I have no doubt Titus is getting support from the club and his team mates and hopefully he knows all tue Panthers fans are behind him, support him and look forward to when he pulls the blue and white on and gets back on the field.

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:25 pm  

Faxlore wrote:

Thanks for posting that. Taylor makes perfect sense, however a players agent speaking his mind won’t change the RFLs minds because they want to and always have protected the SL players for their income from Sky and their precious top clubs. Titus has lost playing money and by the sound of it is suffering mentally as well which I’m sure the RFL won’t help him with even though they bang on about players welfare. I have no doubt Titus is getting support from the club and his team mates and hopefully he knows all tue Panthers fans are behind him, support him and look forward to when he pulls the blue and white on and gets back on the field.

Here here.

Re: Discipline : Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:31 pm  

Faxlore wrote:

Thanks for posting that. Taylor makes perfect sense, however a players agent speaking his mind won’t change the RFLs minds because they want to and always have protected the SL players for their income from Sky and their precious top clubs. Titus has lost playing money and by the sound of it is suffering mentally as well which I’m sure the RFL won’t help him with even though they bang on about players welfare. I have no doubt Titus is getting support from the club and his team mates and hopefully he knows all tue Panthers fans are behind him, support him and look forward to when he pulls the blue and white on and gets back on the field.