: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:22 am  

To me one of his biggest strenghts is his work in defence especially from the marker position so I think he is better at 13. For me the only thing that he lacks to play 6 would be the ability to kick 40 20s under pressure.

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:06 pm  

who needs flankers? wrote:

To me one of his biggest strenghts is his work in defence especially from the marker position so I think he is better at 13. For me the only thing that he lacks to play 6 would be the ability to kick 40 20s under pressure.

Its not just about his skills though, the halves are a partnership and to put his skills with Rangi would be exciting.

Not sure where the doubts come from with regard to his pace, kicking or organisational skills

Re: Westys kicking : Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:55 pm  

pyeman wrote:

one that will significantly enhance his chances of playing in the 4 nations.

I donit think it will affect them tbh, seen as Myler, Burrow and Burgess are all fair kickers and at least two of those will definitely play. O'Loughlin & Ben Westwood can have a crack at kicking aswell IIRC.

Re: Westys kicking : Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:56 pm  

pyeman wrote:

one that will significantly enhance his chances of playing in the 4 nations.

I donit think it will affect them tbh, seen as Myler, Burrow and Burgess are all fair kickers and at least two of those will definitely play. O'Loughlin & Ben Westwood can have a crack at kicking aswell IIRC. Also, the most likely LF's : Burgess, Sinfield, Purdham, O'Loughlin can all kick. But I would rather see Westerman in there than the latter 3.

Re: Westys kicking : Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:01 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

I donit think it will affect them tbh, seen as Myler, Burrow and Burgess are all fair kickers and at least two of those will definitely play. O'Loughlin & Ben Westwood can have a crack at kicking aswell IIRC. Also, the most likely LF's : Burgess, Sinfield, Purdham, O'Loughlin can all kick. But I would rather see Westerman in there than the latter 3.

Cant recall westwood or burgess ever kicking so how good they are remains to be seen. Burrow is a decent kicker but not upto the level that westy has been kicking recently, in fact the only 2 on that list that has matched westys recent form are myler and sinfield. Cant see sinfield geeting the nod due to all the times he has been shown up at international level. Its not just about being first choice kicker, sykes got the nod over shenton last time just because he was decent back up kicker and can play a number of positions. whats more i wouldnt put burgess at loose, burgess is a beast of a forward but is more a prop or second rower than a loose forward, westy is an out and out loose forward, something that england have needed since sculthorpe retired.