Re: Video Refs Taking Over : Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:16 pm  

WallTiger wrote:

I look forward to the ball being knocked forward in general play and the player touching it with his pinky as it hits the ground and no knock on being awarded against him from now on !!

Spot on ..To give a try the rules state downward pressure "UNDER" control ,,But How do we get good refs when the man at the top was crap

Re: Video Refs Taking Over : Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:00 am  

kt170496 wrote: Spot on ..To give a try the rules state downward pressure "UNDER" control ,,But How do we get good refs when the man at the top was crap no they don't Try – How scored 3. A try is scored when:– (a) a player first grounds the ball in his opponents’ in-goal, provided that he is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. (b) opposing players simultaneously ground the ball in the in-goal area provided that the attacking player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. Sliding try (c) a tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play but provided that when the ball crosses the goal line the player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/rugb ... 2007_%20(2).pdf Incidently the argument about if it was in the field of play it would be a knock on is irrelevent as the very act of placing the ball on the ground and letting go (for scoring a try) would be a knock on anywhere else on the pitch.

kt170496 wrote: Spot on ..To give a try the rules state downward pressure "UNDER" control ,,But How do we get good refs when the man at the top was crap no they don't Try – How scored 3. A try is scored when:– (a) a player first grounds the ball in his opponents’ in-goal, provided that he is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. (b) opposing players simultaneously ground the ball in the in-goal area provided that the attacking player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. Sliding try (c) a tackled player’s momentum carries him into the opponents’ in-goal where he grounds the ball even if the ball has first touched the ground in the field of play but provided that when the ball crosses the goal line the player is not in touch or touch in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/rugb ... 2007_%20(2).pdf Incidently the argument about if it was in the field of play it would be a knock on is irrelevent as the very act of placing the ball on the ground and letting go (for scoring a try) would be a knock on anywhere else on the pitch.

Re: Video Refs Taking Over : Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:06 am  

Bonzo wrote:

Talking to someone last night this was my justification of the VR decision being incorrect. That situation, duplicated in the field of play is going to result in a knock-on being award at least 99 times out of 100. Why that suddenly becomes different in the in-goal area is a mystery.

Am i right in thinking that you can't be deemed to have passed a ball forward and you can't be offside within the in goal area. I may be wrong.

No try for me.

Re: Video Refs Taking Over : Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:16 am  

BIGAL1 wrote:

Am i right in thinking that you can't be deemed to have passed a ball forward and you can't be offside within the in goal area. I may be wrong.

No try for me.

A forward pass in the in-goal area is an infringement, obviously with the restart differing depending on whether it's your own or your opponent's.

You can't be offside in your own in-goal area.

Re: Video Refs Taking Over : Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:50 pm  

WallTiger wrote:

I look forward to the ball being knocked forward in general play and the player touching it with his pinky as it hits the ground and no knock on being awarded against him from now on !!

Very much a non-argument. Its like saying by placing the ball down (in the same way as scoring a try) while between the 30mtr and 20mtr line you should be awarded the 4pts!!!

The in goal area is a different place all together. By slightly placing a milisecond of pressure on the ball a try is to be awarded. Where other than on the Sky commentary does it state that you have to have FULL CONTROL?

I seriously think that there should be a panel of 3 video refs and each is to make an independant decision. 2 against 1 wins and the try is given. These dont all have to be refs there could be one ref a coach and an ex player but all would have to have done a course on the rules of the game and have an exeptional pass rate.