What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:47 pm  

As someone who has been to every game (bar Hull away) this season, I was so dejected about the display last night. The drive home to Warrington was a very long one indeed!

Now, Ive been thinking about it a lot, and Im trying to pin point whats wrong. I do not think TM deserves a new contract, but that said I totally object to the idea of sacking TM before the end of his contract. A contract works both ways.

I see it like this;
1 We have far too many NL standard players. Poor recruitment has not helped this at all.
2 Brent Sherwin has been a very poor signing who has shown little promise and even less performance. He was awful last night. Id rather see us try loan someone like Greg McNally for the season. We wont though as he is on a big contract and simply has to play.
3 We do NOTHING off the ball. The only person in motion is the ball carrier. There is next to no push support
4 We have little in the way of structure and creativity. Either Sherwin or Chase sorts a play, rarely a combination of both.
5 Joe Westerman plays as a strike player so we do not have a 3rd pivot. I would consider Thompson to full back, Goldy to loose and Westy in the second row to hopefully create more options.
6 Out of our 4 props, on Mitchell Sargeant has any punch about him. We hurt noone and seem to hang on in the middle 3rd.
7 Our plan is desperately limited. It seems Chase steps, clean break or a kick from Sherwin to the right. We offer nothing else in the armoury. What happened to the double kiwi play that Westerman scored regularly from over two seasons? Its gone and so has everything else!
8 We seem very very flat. No back slapping, enthusiasm or excitement in the team. Lots of heads down. Feel sorry for Westy at times who tries to cranck up a bit of umph.
9 Far too many young players either dont sign for us or are allowed to leave. Watts, Boyle and Gleadhill being the most recent examples.
10 The trend of loan players is poor. Back our own! Ainscough is an exception as he is special, but I would rather develop what we have than play Tuson and Cooper. It also backs up the decisions to allow Watts, Boyle and Gleadhill to leave as a joke.

Im furious, but I will be there on monday. Its something I do with my dad so that wont stop, but major improvements to all aspects of the football department at the club are needed.

As for the rest of the club, thats as bad, but a different debate!!!! Dont get me started on the shop and the bars!!!

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:04 pm  

I stopped after you said McGoldrick to loose forward that is beyond ridiculous, a loose forward needs to be able to tackle, McGoldrick doesn't even attempt to tackle most of the time.

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:10 pm  

That is an offensively based suggestion. McGoldrick has played numerous seasons with us, NRL and Super 14s. He can tackle. I'm not a major fan of his, I feel he likes being a big fish in a small pond and his forms has nosedived.

Loose forward needs to do a hell of a lot more than tackle mate

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:16 pm  

I agree with most of what you say but McGoldrick has been good at FB this season, so I wouldn't change that aspect of our team...

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:21 pm  

I think he has too mate, but at the moment, we only have Chase trying to create anything. Sherwin is doing nothing. We need a 3rd pivot on the field and its the only way I can see us finding one.

Slightly OT, think Jordan Thompson has gone very well since his introduction. Sound on kicks and carries strongly. Seems to have ok pace too.

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:28 pm  

drop sherwin, play mcgoldrick and chase as half back combo .thompson to fullback also tm back to oz.second thought take shifty with him

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:20 pm  

Cheshire Tiger wrote:

That is an offensively based suggestion. McGoldrick has played numerous seasons with us, NRL and Super 14s. He can tackle. I'm not a major fan of his, I feel he likes being a big fish in a small pond and his forms has nosedived.

Loose forward needs to do a hell of a lot more than tackle mate

He can tackle?? WHEN?? he not bad ball in hand but he is crap in defense.

Ill tell you where i think we gone wrong! not letting caddick take over, also the bloke pumping some money into wakey is from cas but RW and JF turned him away 2! I have always defended RW on here but have now see the light! its time to enjoy the rest of super league till end of next season!!

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:25 pm  

What's going wrong ?

We have a coach 2 years past his sell by date.

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:26 pm  

baztiger wrote:

He can tackle?? WHEN?? he not bad ball in hand but he is crap in defense.

Ill tell you where i think we gone wrong! not letting caddick take over, also the bloke pumping some money into wakey is from cas but RW and JF turned him away 2! I have always defended RW on here but have now see the light! its time to enjoy the rest of super league till end of next season!!

Branson, Caddick & the scrap metal bloke, well done board

Re: What's going wrong? : Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:57 pm  

All good points and the majority should be sorted by our current coaching staff. It seems we have the same mistakes week after week. Whilst some or if not most of the current team arent good enough we cant go out and get rid of them all. Unfortunately the coaching staff will take most of the blame. As much as Matterson might be a nice guy and it might not be all his fault we have some of our worst defeats under him, some shocking scorelines and some daft decisions. I think a change of coach could do us good, but realistically is it going to happen? We are skint and i doubt RW will sack him.. pay off his contract and then recruit anyone to come within. No other coach would probably take on the challenge the way it is. I think we could be stuck with Terry and the current BOD for a while to come yet. Depressing times ahead.