Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:40 am  

stantrin wrote:

Funds in place for stadium

But aren't your funds dependant on the whole development getting the green light?
Don't know...I have erased the squabblings of Grounds from my memory and don't reallly want to re-read 6 months of vitriol.

I feel we fought against mergers once and got our way, this just feels like payback and whats worse is that we voted the system in.
I feel that no matter what a club does on or off the RFL will eek out the teams it wants for its top league and if you dont like it then you can lump it.
How else from a Cas perspective can you have 2 good years in the comp, new sponsors coming aboard, a vibrant youth set up, a new ground finally looking to be in touching distance, a team that is filling with British talent and still be viewed by many to be a favourite for the chop?
The problem is that once you have had the franchise and look at the other teams that are vying for your place, you cannot see what extra they are bringing to the league that isn't there already, it seems financial stability-attendance-league finishes are things overlooked for geographical or past name tick boxes.

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:11 am  

Riggins wrote:

It is between Cas and Wakey. And each set of fans believe they have the better chance. But honestly looking at the current situation, who has the better prospects - Cas or Wakey?

Cas
Outline planning permission in place
Stadium planning permission by Xmas
Funds in place for stadium
No debt and made a profit in 2009
Major long term international businesses sponsoring the club

Wakey
Second run in with taxman in less than 12 months and still with the noose round their neck.
Trouble paying players
No Outline planning permission with opposition from Leeds City Council
No Stadium planning permission

There was a reason why Wakey couldn't consider a joint venture in the stadium project, GH is a better prospect and they would have no money to invest unlike Cas.

So even if my heart says Cas, my head also says Cas. Can Wakey fans honsstly say that their heads think that they have the better chance than Cas??

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:20 am  

Riggins wrote:

Please explain your theory

Give me a breakdown of your funding baring in mind the price of land has dropped dramatically and the 2 million off the council is just a loan i.e to be payed back

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:25 am  

stantrin wrote:

Give me a breakdown of your funding baring in mind the price of land has dropped dramatically and the 2 million off the council is just a loan i.e to be payed back

Could you please furnish us with a copy of your balance sheet and profit and loss account.....
Bit silly really
The Cas BOD have those facts.
The loan is to be paid back, but it is still there, I don't think it has to be paid back instantly.

Don't drag this topic into the mire of Funding and Stadia alone though...

We are discussing Superleague places at risk.

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:29 am  

stantrin wrote:

Give me a breakdown of your funding baring in mind the price of land has dropped dramatically and the 2 million off the council is just a loan i.e to be payed back

Land deal was in place 2 or 3 years ago. Price agreed then.
Next.

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:30 am  

Of the 3 looking at the chop i would say we have the best case

We have better crowds than wakey and salford
Better youth development than both
Better on field success in this franchise period than salford and equal (average league placing) to wakey
Less debt than wakey and salford
Less overseas players than wakey and salford

I've left grounds aside because all clubs beleive they are getting one now which should cancel each other out if true (though in our favour we will own ours and wakey will rent theres, not sure about salford).

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:32 am  

stantrin wrote:

Give me a breakdown of your funding baring in mind the price of land has dropped dramatically and the 2 million off the council is just a loan i.e to be payed back

2 million from council
6 million from ground sale
The rest from waystone, naming rights and grants.

hth

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:36 am  

pyeman wrote:

2 million from council
6 million from ground sale
The rest from waystone, naming rights and grants.

hth

Don't even bother with him mate. He only posts on here about the stadium, trolling.

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:13 pm  

Other posters have commented but how are Bulls flying under the radar?

Re: Superleague places at risk : Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:58 pm  

waltontiger wrote:

Other posters have commented but how are Bulls flying under the radar?

Not a clue. Bulls are going un-noticed because of past performances.

Personally i don't think any of the 1st division teams are good enough to replace either Cas or Wakey.