Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:18 am  

bewildered wrote:

I think it's rather sad trying to make this whole thing into a joke. Homophobia compared to calling someone a ginger is worlds apart. You might think you are been funny but you are no better than the folk committing the homophobic chants at you hovel of a dump

Any form of discrimination is wrong anyone who cant see that is as bad as the homophobes.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:19 am  

waltontiger wrote:

So why quote the redhead incident from the rhino's game?
What was being put up for discussion was abuse as a whole and whether the RFL would be dealing with all things equally....

Well that's quite simple. Was it not that the opening poster was saying Leeds should be given a £40k fine like Cas because of the "alleged" redhead incident?

My response was did Leeds have a suspended fine hanging over them or had been warned previosly about controlling supporters?

If you want to treat them all equally then they are only the same if Leeds or any other club had the same warnings and suspended sentence hanging over them. As it stands now, had the opening poster put that because of this incident on Saturday then Leeds should be warned about future controlling of fans, then he might have had a point. But he didn't, he said Leeds should be fined the same as Cas.

What Leeds did on Saturday is put officials into the stand and announced immediately over the tannoy of what there intentions were if the language continued. This is something Cas even failed to begin to do, despite previous warnings and a suspended fine hanging over them.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:21 am  

pyeman wrote:

Any form of discrimination is wrong anyone who cant see that is as bad as the homophobes.

I think you lot need to get a grip. Move away from yoyr slums and you'll see a world out there of gay people and ginger people. how on earth would you cope?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:23 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Well that's quite simple. Was it not that the opening poster was saying Leeds should be given a £40k fine like Cas because of the "alleged" redhead incident?

My response was did Leeds have a suspended fine hanging over them or had been warned previosly about controlling supporters?

If you want to treat them all equally then they are only the same if Leeds or any other club had the same warnings and suspended sentence hanging over them. As it stands now, had the opening poster put that because of this incident on Saturday then Leeds should be warned about future controlling of fans, then he might have had a point. But he didn't, he said Leeds should be fined the same as Cas.

What Leeds did on Saturday is put officials into the stand and announced immediately over the tannoy of what there intentions were if the language continued. This is something Cas even failed to begin to do, despite previous warnings and a suspended fine hanging over them.

Erm cas did put officials into the stand and sent warnings out over the tannoy, so leeds did no more than cas did.

So you think leeds should be given a suspended fine if the rfl are employing its respect policy without favour?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:26 am  

bewildered wrote:

I think you lot need to get a grip. Move away from yoyr slums and you'll see a world out there of gay people and ginger people. how on earth would you cope?

I dont live in a slum thanks, havent even seen one since last time i travelled through leeds. Theres plenty of gay and ginger people in cas thanks one of my best friends happens to fall into both catogories.

So tell us why in your head is it ok to abuse one set of people for being who they are, but not ok to abuse another group of people.

All forms of discrimination are wrong, if you cant see that your a bigot.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:28 am  

pyeman wrote:

Erm cas did put officials into the stand and sent warnings out over the tannoy, so leeds did no more than cas did.

So you think leeds should be given a suspended fine if the rfl are employing its respect policy without favour?

No, I think if the RFL deem that Leeds mad as little effor in controlling their supporters had Cas had previously done, then they should be warned about it. Which is what Cas were done previously to getting the suspended fine, which was previous to the new fine.

That is what handling equally is.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:28 am  

slums How many houses around Headingley and in fact Leeds have metal gates in front of doors, such a lovely place it is, Cas is a treasure compared to places within your city ie beeston,headingley to name a couple.

POT KETTLE BLACK OLD LAD!

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:39 am  

bewildered wrote:

I think you lot need to get a grip. Move away from yoyr slums and you'll see a world out there of gay people and ginger people. how on earth would you cope?

Why is it that so many Leeds fans appear incapable of posting a rugby related comment on another club's board without making a disparaging remark about their supporter's perceived socio/economic status. The Rhino's fan base really does include some of the most insidious/obnoxious pieces of work you would ever hope not to meet.

Anyway.... while agreeing that our homophobic chanting was more unacceptable than the episode at Headingley on Saturday it is still valid to suggest Leeds have a case to answer in relation to the game's Respect policy.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:44 am  

Gotcha wrote:

No, I think if the RFL deem that Leeds mad as little effor in controlling their supporters had Cas had previously done, then they should be warned about it. Which is what Cas were done previously to getting the suspended fine, which was previous to the new fine.

That is what handling equally is.

Given that the abuse of players and officials continued throughout the game, its obvious that leeds did not do a good enough job of controlling the fans. Which is is against the rfls respect policy, therefore it would be fair for leeds to get a warning from the rfl and a fine if it happens again. That is of course if all clubs are treated equally by the rfl. This will prove if they are or not.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:57 am  

pyeman wrote:

Given that the abuse of players and officials continued throughout the game, its obvious that leeds did not do a good enough job of controlling the fans. Which is is against the rfls respect policy, therefore it would be fair for leeds to get a warning from the rfl and a fine if it happens again. That is of course if all clubs are treated equally by the rfl. This will prove if they are or not.

No it didn't continue throughout the game. It stopped. But then again without the sky cameras there I wouldn't have even know about it, as I sit in the Carnegie and can not hear much chanting from the southstand most weeks.

But that said, if a warning is deemed then that is fair enough. So you agree that the opening poster has completely gone over the top though?

I take it you will also be putting in your complaints to the RFL about Warrington last week on Sky, and will look for your future episodes for all Sky covered games, since the same language is indeed clearly audible at all games.

The key though is whether a club does something about it, something Cas could learn a lot from previously.