Re: Latest stadium up date : Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:46 pm  

Disco wrote:

You should write for a fanzine.

Not sure whether to take that as criticism or as a compliment

Re: Latest stadium up date : Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:17 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

Not sure whether to take that as criticism or as a compliment

Well, "best fanzine ever" and all that!

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:22 am  

Many posters who were hung drawn and quatered, for posting such liable ie that the stadium was in doubt, are now back in the fold . Strange . Whats changed .

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:27 am  

Great post Gazemous - you have perfectly encapsulated my own fears for our own Wakefield project. With the best will in the world, and despite the bullishness of many of my fellow Wakefield fans, there simply does not appear to be time to get this build underway before franchise application time. Do you think the RFL will take us at our word again? I wouldn't if I were in their position. I really hope we both hear something positive and concrete soon 'cos I'm sick of hearing the aspirational guff.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:39 am  

I have absolutely no idea where either the Cas stadium or where the Wakefield stadium is in terms of development.

It is imposible to read the threads as they are domintaed by pessimists, optimists or realists who have no idea what is going on because they cannot interpret the cryptic messages from the clubs.

What i do know is that in 4 weeks time after the election there are going to be the most savage cuts in public services and COUNCIL funding that the country has ever seen.


ANY development relying on council funding or even private funding is knackered . The Wakey council is not going to ba able to invest money in a ground when they are laying off Social workers, teachers and coppers.

It would be political suicide for the council to give money to Cas or wakey whilst sacking staff.


There needs to be a campaign for a shared ground before it is too late. Or one or both of you will go bust ( lose a franchise). Crusaders are safe after moving to Wrexham.


Wake up and small the coffee you lot and get used to ground sharing and then 3 years after that who knows.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:58 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

I have absolutely no idea where either the Cas stadium or where the Wakefield stadium is in terms of development.

It is imposible to read the threads as they are domintaed by pessimists, optimists or realists who have no idea what is going on because they cannot interpret the cryptic messages from the clubs.

What i do know is that in 4 weeks time after the election there are going to be the most savage cuts in public services and COUNCIL funding that the country has ever seen.


ANY development relying on council funding or even private funding is knackered . The Wakey council is not going to ba able to invest money in a ground when they are laying off Social workers, teachers and coppers.

It would be political suicide for the council to give money to Cas or wakey whilst sacking staff.


There needs to be a campaign for a shared ground before it is too late. Or one or both of you will go bust ( lose a franchise). Crusaders are safe after moving to Wrexham.


Wake up and small the coffee you lot and get used to ground sharing and then 3 years after that who knows.

If you have "no idea" then why comment.....it just makes you look stupid!!

One or both grounds may not happen.......but just for the record, neither proposal has asked for, nor needs any public money.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:59 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

I have absolutely no idea where either the Cas stadium or where the Wakefield stadium is in terms of development.

It is imposible to read the threads as they are domintaed by pessimists, optimists or realists who have no idea what is going on because they cannot interpret the cryptic messages from the clubs.

What i do know is that in 4 weeks time after the election there are going to be the most savage cuts in public services and COUNCIL funding that the country has ever seen.


ANY development relying on council funding or even private funding is knackered . The Wakey council is not going to ba able to invest money in a ground when they are laying off Social workers, teachers and coppers.

It would be political suicide for the council to give money to Cas or wakey whilst sacking staff.


There needs to be a campaign for a shared ground before it is too late. Or one or both of you will go bust ( lose a franchise). Crusaders are safe after moving to Wrexham.


Wake up and small the coffee you lot and get used to ground sharing and then 3 years after that who knows.

Wakefield council aren't part funding either stadium. Indeed, they are putting no money into either project.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:15 am  

SimonBarrett wrote:

If you have "no idea" then why comment.....it just makes you look stupid!!

One or both grounds may not happen.......but just for the record, neither proposal has asked for, nor needs any public money.

have no idea where they are RE PLANNING as all the comments made by both clubs and are pretty cryptic.

You cannot hide behind the money from the council arguement as both the grounds to some extent will rely on some public money whether that is related to infrastructure, sharing joint facilities or advance payments for feasability studies.

Neither club has the £10 to £20m ready cash to invest. they are relying on Private capital ( not much around and no one will invest whilst there are uncertainties about the economy whether that is in houses or hotels or leisure facilities). Even if a private investor came forward how long would it take to pay the money back.

Anyway that is all i am going to post on it but IMHO a ground share is the only way to go now. 3 years ago the situation was different but not at the minute and will be unlikely for the next 3 years.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:23 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

have no idea where they are RE PLANNING as all the comments made by both clubs and are pretty cryptic.

You cannot hide behind the money from the council arguement as both the grounds to some extent will rely on some public money whether that is related to infrastructure, sharing joint facilities or advance payments for feasability studies.

Neither club has the £10 to £20m ready cash to invest. they are relying on Private capital ( not much around and no one will invest whilst there are uncertainties about the economy whether that is in houses or hotels or leisure facilities). Even if a private investor came forward how long would it take to pay the money back.

Anyway that is all i am going to post on it but IMHO a ground share is the only way to go now. 3 years ago the situation was different but not at the minute and will be unlikely for the next 3 years.

Ok DG, you obviously know best!! Let’s just wait and see how much public money goes into either venture shall we??

Re: Latest stadium up date : Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:39 am  

Well I'm glad some people's blog emails have arrived because mine still hasn't.