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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm  
I disagree but then again its up to the England coach come the end of the year
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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:22 pm  
Can we not wait a bit longer than 1 game into the new season before judging players and deciding the England side?
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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:03 pm  
Would sculthorpe and farrell have got into the england/GB team so quick if they played for cas....doubt it very much.
Lets not forget these two players played for 2 clubs playing at the top for there game when they were selected for there country.
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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:21 pm  
James Donaldson is the best potential LF in the country, but is a year or two off internationals. I think the 13 shirt will be Westermans to lose then though, good to have a few Loose's coming through at various clubs though.
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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:45 pm  
What I don't get is this. Farrell and Sculthorpe are spoken about in hushed tones all the time. However, how many times did we win a series against Australia, or indeed a world cup with them taking up space in the GB/England side?

You never know how good a player is until they're tested at the highest level anyway, and all of this "he's never as good as" comparison is, quite frankly a load of old codswallop. Westerman is a different type of player from bot Farrell and Sculthorpe (thank goodness) and unless he gets a chance, no-one will ever know how good he is.

Look at Shenton. An un-noticed centre in the England squad last season who made tackle after tackle and kept the opposition out when he played. After he went off in the 4N final, the Aussies attacked down the side he'd vacated and scored try after try. But who, other than Cas fans who watch him week in and week out would have actually rated what he did (except a very canny Aussie coach!)

Westerman will not be another [insert name of any other loose forward here]. He is and will be the first and only Joe Westerman - a lad with a hell of a lot of talent who Cas fans would like to see picked for international honours.
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Re: Westerman : Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:59 pm  
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What I don't get is this. Farrell and Sculthorpe are spoken about in hushed tones all the time. However, how many times did we win a series against Australia, or indeed a world cup with them taking up space in the GB/England side?

You never know how good a player is until they're tested at the highest level anyway, and all of this "he's never as good as" comparison is, quite frankly a load of old codswallop. Westerman is a different type of player from bot Farrell and Sculthorpe (thank goodness) and unless he gets a chance, no-one will ever know how good he is.

Look at Shenton. An un-noticed centre in the England squad last season who made tackle after tackle and kept the opposition out when he played. After he went off in the 4N final, the Aussies attacked down the side he'd vacated and scored try after try. But who, other than Cas fans who watch him week in and week out would have actually rated what he did (except a very canny Aussie coach!)

Westerman will not be another [insert name of any other loose forward here]. He is and will be the first and only Joe Westerman - a lad with a hell of a lot of talent who Cas fans would like to see picked for international honours.


Well said :CLAP:
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Re: Westerman : Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:53 am  
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Can we not wait a bit longer than 1 game into the new season before judging players and deciding the England side?


You mean one game isn't long enough to decide who will win the league, occupy the playoffs, come bottom, get in the England side and get a franchise?
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Re: Westerman : Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:06 am  
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Westerman will not be another [insert name of any other loose forward here]. He is and will be the first and only Joe Westerman - a lad with a hell of a lot of talent who Cas fans would like to see picked for international honours.


...and the next target for Wigan, Warrington and Stains... :THINK:
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Re: Westerman : Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:32 am  
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...and the next target for Wigan, Warrington and Stains... :THINK:


Indeed, the top clubs want the top players...
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Re: Westerman : Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:07 am  
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...and the next target for Wigan, Warrington and Stains... :THINK:


They can keep their grubby hands off him too.
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