Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:48 am  

smoking monkey wrote:

Jeez you codheads of either persuasion are tedious..don't you ever tire of this 'we have more fans than Elvis' stuff.

Back on thread, maybe those clubs with grounds which are old but which they own and therefore control should score some license points against the lodgers/sharers in better stadia who - according to your argument - seem less empowered to ensure safety/security.

Interesting point. It would seem such clubs are 'unfineable' if the responsibility of stewarding lies with the stadium rather than the club. What kind of world is it where a club is punished for owning assets?

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:55 pm  

I'm pretty sure that in order to stage any RL match, Hull would have to have convinced Red Hall that the chosen venue would tick all the boxes, meet all H and S regulations, and that would have included adequately trained security staffing levels.

As part of their Licence, I'd hazard a guess that as far as the RL is concerned, it's Hull's resposibility to make sure these levels are maintained, therefore any sanctions will be against Hull, not SMC

100k fine should concentrate their thoughts!

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:05 pm  

Scrappy Doo wrote:

What are you trying to say there?

In my opinion, Cas should not have been fined for supporters chanting, it is part and parcel of the game.

Well said mate. The difference is Scott Donald is not a high profile union convert, and he hasn't moaned about it repeatedly on tv. I do not condone in anyway what happened to GT, but it is no coincidence the RFL acted after GT mentioned the incident on tv. If they don't act then it makes a mockery of the fine handed out to Cas. In my eyes it is not enough for the club to say"We don't employ them." They still have a responsibility to make sure they are doing their job properly. I have a number of people who work under me, I don't employ them, but it is my job to make sure they do theirs properly. If they don't it's me for the high jump.
EDIT this was meant to be a reply to joe14c

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:04 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Just wondering where the thread is and Petition frothing from the mouth against Hull FC?

I mean considering the fans incidents on Saturday of a fan running on the pitch to physically assault a player, or the numerous shockingly verbal songs aimed at Ryan Bailey. Songs that could also be heard on the TV.

I mean there were pages and pages of a thread against Leeds only a few weeks back. Surely the Cas fans are not only homophobic but childishly hypocritically biased aswell? or are they?

How dare you insinuate that all cas fans are homophobic just because a few morons chanted at one game. It is you that is childish!!!! No jog off back from wherever you came

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:28 pm  

Just a note,the smc and hull fc have barred for life 2 fans already over the incident,how long did it take Cas to act ?

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:36 am  

PAC wrote:

Just a note,the smc and hull fc have barred for life 2 fans already over the incident,how long did it take Cas to act ?

Its a lot easier to identify a lunatic that was arrested than to to identify faces among the crowd, so that infantile jab will cut no ice with real supporters.

Fact is the cod heads and kr have a history of causing trouble but the RFL do not punish them.

Stop drinking sea water and you will see the world as it really is

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:10 pm  

lol amber its just that gaslight on here i think said he had emailed the names of your fans who was chanting to RW.
Its just that i think the two things are a bit diffo,dont get me wrong i dont like(lol)fc and hope they get hit hard from the rfl but i think Cas where fined for not holding a meaningfull investigation,unfortunatly you cant say the same against fc.

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:51 pm  

PAC wrote:

lol amber its just that gaslight on here i think said he had emailed the names of your fans who was chanting to RW.
Its just that i think the two things are a bit diffo,dont get me wrong i dont like(lol)fc and hope they get hit hard from the rfl but i think Cas where fined for not holding a meaningfull investigation,unfortunatly you cant say the same against fc.

Wrong, Cas were fined because the liar Thomas changed his story from ' i didnt hear anything' to 'i was deeply hurt when i heard the chanting' and of course his agent/friend saw a few quid in playing the victim.


Fc could hardly fail to do an investigation when the bizzys had the scroat locked up, get real. If its fines for chanting , why didnt FC get done for the die cooky die chants at Wakefield ? take your time on that one

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:20 am  

I may be totally wrong amber but the die cookie chants from fc fans was under the control of waky stewards?Or are away clubs responsible for their own fans chants?
I think stewards got sent into the fc section that was chanting but as i wasnt there im not 100%.
If for eg 50 waky fans pretend to be cas fans next year and go to the crusaders match at cas and start chanting nasty things would it be wakys,cas or crusaders responsibility?Or would the club send stewards in this time straight away and hold a meaningfull investy do you reckon.

Re: Where is the Petition against Hull Fans : Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:30 am  

PAC wrote:

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If for eg 50 waky fans pretend to be cas fans next year and go to the crusaders match at cas and start chanting nasty things would it be wakys,cas or crusaders responsibility?Or would the club send stewards in this time straight away and hold a meaningfull investy do you reckon.

Well it ends here because you know nothing about the event, there was at the most 15 seconds of these idiots and were talking about poorly paid stewards here not a loving swat team, so sonny how do you motivate stewards to get in there as quick as the sas ???

ffs get the facts before spouting poop