Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:56 pm  

How on earth can you do something about something you dont even know is happening.

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Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:24 pm  

From the club's statement: our case is we knew it was happening, we knew it was unacceptable, and we took relevant and reasonable steps.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:26 pm  

I think some people cannot grasp what the real problem is. It doesn't matter whether or not G.T. heard any abusive chanting, the fact is many people in the crowd did hear it and quite probably some of those people were gay and more than likely they would be offended by the remarks.

We have moved on from the years gone by. In the 21st Century, homophobic abuse is classed as a "Hate Crime", anyone who heard the abuse and said or did nothing about is complicit in the whole sad episode.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:20 pm  

Brasshat wrote:

I think some people cannot grasp what the real problem is. It doesn't matter whether or not G.T. heard any abusive chanting, the fact is many people in the crowd did hear it and quite probably some of those people were gay and more than likely they would be offended by the remarks.

We have moved on from the years gone by. In the 21st Century, homophobic abuse is classed as a "Hate Crime", anyone who heard the abuse and said or did nothing about is complicit in the whole sad episode.

Yeah if you define 20-30 people as "many". I wouldn't though.

Plus, what about the 5000 or so who had no idea of the chants until after the game (ref included). Are they complicit with this whole sad episode too?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:37 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

Yeah if you define 20-30 people as "many". I wouldn't though.

Plus, what about the 5000 or so who had no idea of the chants until after the game (ref included). Are they complicit with this whole sad episode too?

So, you think that only 20-30 people heard something?

As to your second sentence, read my post again.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:46 pm  

Brasshat wrote:

So, you think that only 20-30 people heard something?

As to your second sentence, read my post again.

There were 20-30 involved with the chanting, but Cas were attacking the railway end in the 2nd half, thus the majority of home fans (myself included) were stood at the railway end, leaving very few in the Wheldon End (where the chants were from). But you'd know that as I'm sure you were at the game, yeah?

I think it's harsh to blame fans who may of heard it, what would you like them to do? Personally, I'd of merely just shouted "shut up" in no uncertain terms & carried on watching what I'd paid to watch.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:57 pm  

I heard every word, i just looked at my daughter and shook my head, that was for the first chant. I did nothing else apart from watch the game. Does that make me as bad as the chanters i dont think so.

The second chant was more light hearted, i just smiled to myself when i heard it.

I continued to watch the game and forget totaly about the 2 chants, they ment nothing to me it was just banter as far as i was concerned.

I didn't realise it was illegal to say such things, maybe i'm naive......can someone tell me is it such an offence people can go to prison for it.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:03 pm  

Slightly O/T but 6 mins into tonights Leeds - Saints game you can hear the Leeds fans singing about a certain ginger saints player. I wonder if they will be recieving a 40k fine....

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:09 pm  

Double Dutch wrote:

Slightly O/T but 6 mins into tonights Leeds - Saints game you can hear the Leeds fans singing about a certain ginger saints player. I wonder if they will be recieving a 40k fine....

Yep heard it...your just a fat ginger bastar@.

Nice bit of evidence for the cas BOD to use.

We'll see.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:34 pm  

poppys mum wrote:

Yep heard it...your just a fat ginger bastar@.

Nice bit of evidence for the cas BOD to use.

We'll see.

lol if you think the two chants are similar in law you really do need help in understanding the ongoing situation.
Ignorance is not much of a defence,but as you say we will see.
Perhaps the club all the way up from fan to board thinks the same?Hence the problemo.