Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:15 pm  

It will be a ground share, You can put money on that

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:16 pm  

Dettoriman wrote:

It will be a ground share, You can put money on that

Ive mortgaged my house on your tip

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:25 pm  

Tigerpie wrote:

OK, lets see, how do we make this clear to you..................................................................................

I've got it!! Why not pop along Atherton Rd, at the end of which you'll find signs for a place called Leigh.....cracking little town in your own borough with its own stadium, probably around 3-4 miles from the shared ground you have access to at present, then go and share a ground with them.................

......what? Never!! Not a chance in hell!! I hear you say........you really would not like it at all would you?

1. Its not in wigan and therefore not like having a joint ground in normanton or somewhere between the two
2. Its no where near big enough, we could only accomodate Season ticket holders
3. Its is more like 7-8 miles from wigan rather than three you suggest
4. both clubs have grounds which are up to SL standard, rather than both chasing pipedreams of grounds that will never happen unless they pool resources

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:27 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

How does it make "perfect sense" to do the following:

[color=#FF0000]Abandon one of two sites that have had a lot of money pumped into them
Abandon one of two sites that have planning permission for a stadium
Tell one set of two architects that the contract they have is now void
Tell both sets of fans that they're moving out of the clubs own town
Tell current backers & sponsors that all the money they've put into one stadium is no longer needed and they've wasted it

It is not viable AT ALL, especially with Cas being a few months from building and Wakey 4-5 months behind that.[/color]

Has all of that REALLY happened or is it just lifted from the BS placed in both clubs SL applications.

Lets be honest, neither club has even released proper architectural drawings of the ground your that far off!!! Cartoon drawings by some student doing a BTEC at Cas college dont count...but the RFL do usually accept this in SL applications so as long as that continues you should be reet!

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:38 pm  

andyed-wiganrl wrote:

Has all of that REALLY happened or is it just lifted from the BS placed in both clubs SL applications.

Lets be honest, neither club has even released proper architectural drawings of the ground your that far off!!! Cartoon drawings by some student doing a BTEC at Cas college dont count...but the RFL do usually accept this in SL applications so as long as that continues you should be reet!

Well if you're so all knowing you'd have read the blog a page or 2 back and realised that Cas are finalising details with an architect, and go onto Wakey's forum and see they already have one.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:17 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Well if you're so all knowing you'd have read the blog a page or 2 back and realised that Cas are finalising details with an architect, and go onto Wakey's forum and see they already have one.

WOW......you should have a stadium for 2040 then eh? FFS is that progress in castleford?

Then again having been there the horse and cart is probably still seen as progress and Wheldon Road State of the Art!!

If wakey have one why dont cas not bother, team up with wakeys plan and actually get a ground, rather than both keep dreaming.

If your honest you know its the only realistic way your going to get a ground.......as if wakey council are really going to stump up the cash for TWO grounds in the same borough!!!

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:20 pm  

andyed-wiganrl wrote:

WOW......you should have a stadium for 2040 then eh? FFS is that progress in castleford?

Then again having been there the horse and cart is probably still seen as progress and Wheldon Road State of the Art!!

If wakey have one why dont cas not bother, team up with wakeys plan and actually get a ground, rather than both keep dreaming.

If your honest you know its the only realistic way your going to get a ground.......as if wakey council are really going to stump up the cash for TWO grounds in the same borough!!!

WAKEY COUNCIL AREN'T PAYING ANYTHING FOR EITHER STADIUM!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID BY EITHER SET OF FANS?!

Both clubs are going about it in their own ways, both will have them by 2012, in fact Cas should be ready for starting late summer early autumn.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:24 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

WAKEY COUNCIL AREN'T PAYING ANYTHING FOR EITHER STADIUM!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID BY EITHER SET OF FANS?!

Both clubs are going about it in their own ways, both will have them by 2012, in fact Cas should be ready for starting late summer early autumn.

Yeah alright mate....like bradfut were redeveloping odslum in 1994!! Found an old league express the other week having a clean out with little mock up pictures of what it would look like in 2000!!! Had a good old laugh at that.

As much as id like it to be otherwise, yours and wakeys plans are pipedreams and neither will have sufficient funding unless you team up AND get the council involved.

If you take the emotion out of the topic then youd all realise its the only way.

Perhaps this will finally happen given another 16 years like bratfut have had, when come 2026 you and wakey will still be playing at Wheldon Road and Belle View in the National league and will realise its the only chance either of you will ever have of getting back in SL. Either that or merge as Calder (PS. the last bit is tongue in cheek)

Re: Latest stadium up date : Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:31 pm  

andyed-wiganrl wrote:

As much as id like it to be otherwise, yours and wakeys plans are pipedreams and neither will have sufficient funding unless you team up AND get the council involved.

Well considering both teams have funding from various sources Wakey being Sport England/grants/sale of Belle Vue and Cas from sponsors such as Surfworld/sale of the Jungle and both teams getting land from the council to secure loans again, which reading the blog something Cas have already done in preparation ready for the build.

Re: Latest stadium up date : Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:48 am  

andyed-wiganrl wrote:

Yeah alright mate....like bradfut were redeveloping odslum in 1994!! Found an old league express the other week having a clean out with little mock up pictures of what it would look like in 2000!!! Had a good old laugh at that.

As much as id like it to be otherwise, yours and wakeys plans are pipedreams and neither will have sufficient funding unless you team up AND get the council involved.

If you take the emotion out of the topic then youd all realise its the only way.

Perhaps this will finally happen given another 16 years like bratfut have had, when come 2026 you and wakey will still be playing at Wheldon Road and Belle View in the National league and will realise its the only chance either of you will ever have of getting back in SL. Either that or merge as Calder (PS. the last bit is tongue in cheek)

Wakefield will be a tenant at a community owned stadium. The funding for the stadium is in place and provided planning permission for the full development is given, it will happen. As a community owned stadium Cas are welcome to play there as well, although at the moment they are choosing to press ahead with their own stadium plans and good luck to them. As a Wakey fan, I can appreciate your sceptism regarding Wakey and Bradfords proposed developments because we have both had various plans for quite some time which have never come to fruition, but I think in the Cas case, the project has evolved over a shorter period of time and has been set back by the economic crisis and therefore until it is actually confirmed it is not going to happen, I think it is unfair to criticise.

In the case of Wakey, we are in the last chance saloon having sold Belle Vue, but as above, subject to planning permission being granted, the new stadium will be built.