Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:31 pm  

Speedy wrote:

Well Wakey's plans are sure for the community, 200 acres+ of green belt going to make way for warehouses etc, with out that you have no funding for a stadium at all do you ?

100's of jobs being created during a recession, money coming into the council for business rates etc, major new facilities run by the community trust for the communities benefit and well being - these aren't Wakies plans, our club can't afford them, these are the plans put forward by the developers and the community trust. To be honest, I wouldn't want our BOD running something like that, it's scary enough watching them trying to run a rugby club! And no, without that we don't have any money for a stadium, and I don't think the council should build us one (unlike Hull, Widnes, Salford, Saints etc.) - they should stick to schools and maybe re-invent decent council houses - but I have no objection to the proposed deal by YorkCourt, which benefits the developer, the council, the community AND any team that wants access to a shiny new stadium. Who knows, if England get the footy world cup it would make an ideal training base for a major team, with a 5 star hotel just down the road and easy access to Elland Road stadium!

Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:37 pm  

wakeyrule wrote:

100's of jobs being created during a recession, money coming into the council for business rates etc, major new facilities run by the community trust for the communities benefit and well being - these aren't Wakies plans, our club can't afford them, these are the plans put forward by the developers and the community trust. To be honest, I wouldn't want our BOD running something like that, it's scary enough watching them trying to run a rugby club! And no, without that we don't have any money for a stadium, and I don't think the council should build us one (unlike Hull, Widnes, Salford, Saints etc.) - they should stick to schools and maybe re-invent decent council houses - but I have no objection to the proposed deal by YorkCourt, which benefits the developer, the council, the community AND any team that wants access to a shiny new stadium. Who knows, if England get the footy world cup it would make an ideal training base for a major team, with a 5 star hotel just down the road and easy access to Elland Road stadium!

Nice to see you read my links before posting....

Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:38 pm  

Arv wrote:

You are wrong - apology accepted.

It was never solely a stadium for the Tigers and was never presented as such by anyone. It was always to be a multi-purpose stadium, as Gaslight has said, complete with amenities to serve the local community. As far back as its original announcement in March 2006 this idea was put forward. Obviously as a Wakefield fan, you wouldn't have taken much notice, but the evidence is here:

Is the casino still part of it? I'd be skint after the first game!!! Turn up early, couple of pints and a meal in Xscape, watch the game and then into the Casino! I'd end up with an IVA, just like....someone I know!

What other community amenities are involved?

Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:39 pm  

Arv wrote:

Nice to see you read my links before posting....

2nd bottle of Rioja - typing speed isn't what it should be

Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:47 pm  

wakeyrule wrote:

2nd bottle of Rioja - typing speed isn't what it should be

Re: What are you happy to do? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:29 pm  

wakeyrule wrote:

Is the casino still part of it? I'd be skint after the first game!!! Turn up early, couple of pints and a meal in Xscape, watch the game and then into the Casino! I'd end up with an IVA, just like....someone I know!

What other community amenities are involved?

No, the casino fell through when they decided to have one and stick it in Blackpool or somewhere unfortunately.

Re: What are you happy to do? : Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:57 am  

Arv wrote: You are wrong - apology accepted. It was never solely a stadium for the Tigers and was never presented as such by anyone. It was always to be a multi-purpose stadium, as Gaslight has said, complete with amenities to serve the local community. As far back as its original announcement in March 2006 this idea was put forward. Obviously as a Wakefield fan, you wouldn't have taken much notice, but the evidence is here: Click Me Plans have not changed, unless you mean the "Surfworld" add-on announced 10 months ago. Click Me In terms of ownership, it's not clear, but I do seem to remember that it would be jointly owned by at least the Tigers and Waystone - could have been some other consortium but I can't remember and don't know where I read it now. Hope that clears some of it up. Someone else should be able to fill you in on the rest. So what are these community facilities? The link uses the word 'community' many times but is a bit vague on what is being built for community use. Maybe you have more up to date links to the details? Maybe something like the ones proposed at Newmarket http://www.swag-online.co.uk/ "An educational and Elite Performance Centre together with indoor and outdoor training amenities are set to be situated at the site. A four court sports hall, a fitness gym, a medical treatment room, several class rooms, a restaurant and a massage suite are all proposed to be incorporated into the Centre." These look great in theory but at the moment they look like they will never happen. A privately run stadium which may be available to rent out for concerts that Dicky sees as a community project is pushing the definition somewhat. It's like saying the 10-pin bowling or skiiing are community projects because they're available to the public. Not trying to get into an argument or anything, just looking for more info on the community element of your stadium. Not happy at all with the current state of limbo. Hope you get started soon so at least there will be an option for the RL teams in the district. At the moment the future is looking grim for both clubs but especially Trinity... and the clock is ticking.

Arv wrote: You are wrong - apology accepted. It was never solely a stadium for the Tigers and was never presented as such by anyone. It was always to be a multi-purpose stadium, as Gaslight has said, complete with amenities to serve the local community. As far back as its original announcement in March 2006 this idea was put forward. Obviously as a Wakefield fan, you wouldn't have taken much notice, but the evidence is here: Click Me Plans have not changed, unless you mean the "Surfworld" add-on announced 10 months ago. Click Me In terms of ownership, it's not clear, but I do seem to remember that it would be jointly owned by at least the Tigers and Waystone - could have been some other consortium but I can't remember and don't know where I read it now. Hope that clears some of it up. Someone else should be able to fill you in on the rest. So what are these community facilities? The link uses the word 'community' many times but is a bit vague on what is being built for community use. Maybe you have more up to date links to the details? Maybe something like the ones proposed at Newmarket http://www.swag-online.co.uk/ "An educational and Elite Performance Centre together with indoor and outdoor training amenities are set to be situated at the site. A four court sports hall, a fitness gym, a medical treatment room, several class rooms, a restaurant and a massage suite are all proposed to be incorporated into the Centre." These look great in theory but at the moment they look like they will never happen. A privately run stadium which may be available to rent out for concerts that Dicky sees as a community project is pushing the definition somewhat. It's like saying the 10-pin bowling or skiiing are community projects because they're available to the public. Not trying to get into an argument or anything, just looking for more info on the community element of your stadium. Not happy at all with the current state of limbo. Hope you get started soon so at least there will be an option for the RL teams in the district. At the moment the future is looking grim for both clubs but especially Trinity... and the clock is ticking.

Re: What are you happy to do? : Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:52 am  

coco the fullback wrote: So what are these community facilities? The link uses the word 'community' many times but is a bit vague on what is being built for community use. Maybe you have more up to date links to the details? Maybe something like the ones proposed at Newmarket http://www.swag-online.co.uk/ "An educational and Elite Performance Centre together with indoor and outdoor training amenities are set to be situated at the site. A four court sports hall, a fitness gym, a medical treatment room, several class rooms, a restaurant and a massage suite are all proposed to be incorporated into the Centre." These look great in theory but at the moment they look like they will never happen. A privately run stadium which may be available to rent out for concerts that Dicky sees as a community project is pushing the definition somewhat. It's like saying the 10-pin bowling or skiiing are community projects because they're available to the public. Not trying to get into an argument or anything, just looking for more info on the community element of your stadium. Not happy at all with the current state of limbo. Hope you get started soon so at least there will be an option for the RL teams in the district. At the moment the future is looking grim for both clubs but especially Trinity... and the clock is ticking. Various local sports facilities currently under-represented in the area to be confirmed by WMDC who were supposed to be investing in that aspect of the stadium. Click Me Click Me 2 Click Me 3 While it might be short on specifics, it's clear that the club is working with the council to produce a stadium with community sports facilities, and which has always been the intention from the outset. The original point put by wakeyrule was that wakeyrule wrote: .. I was under the impression that (until you ran short of money) it was a stadium for the Tigers... How have the plans changed to make it a community stadium?... If it is genuinely going to be built as a community stadium then I have no objections at all to WMDC helping out - if not, then the council should steer clear and use the money to benefit the community they represent The facts are these: The stadium was always intended to be a community stadium. The plans have not changed in that regard. Any input from WMDC would only have been towards the community facilities provided by the stadium. All this has been well-publicised in the past. I'm not on here for an argument, either. Because I'm a Cas fan, I've taken no interest in any of the plans for a new stadium for Trinity and I assume that when the Glasshoughton plans started, many Wakefield fans wouldn't have taken much interest in our plans. All I wanted to do was put the story straight. I've got no connections with anyone at the Council, Waystone or the Tigers so if you're looking for meaty stuff that's not available in the public domain, you've got the wrong bloke.

coco the fullback wrote: So what are these community facilities? The link uses the word 'community' many times but is a bit vague on what is being built for community use. Maybe you have more up to date links to the details? Maybe something like the ones proposed at Newmarket http://www.swag-online.co.uk/ "An educational and Elite Performance Centre together with indoor and outdoor training amenities are set to be situated at the site. A four court sports hall, a fitness gym, a medical treatment room, several class rooms, a restaurant and a massage suite are all proposed to be incorporated into the Centre." These look great in theory but at the moment they look like they will never happen. A privately run stadium which may be available to rent out for concerts that Dicky sees as a community project is pushing the definition somewhat. It's like saying the 10-pin bowling or skiiing are community projects because they're available to the public. Not trying to get into an argument or anything, just looking for more info on the community element of your stadium. Not happy at all with the current state of limbo. Hope you get started soon so at least there will be an option for the RL teams in the district. At the moment the future is looking grim for both clubs but especially Trinity... and the clock is ticking. Various local sports facilities currently under-represented in the area to be confirmed by WMDC who were supposed to be investing in that aspect of the stadium. Click Me Click Me 2 Click Me 3 While it might be short on specifics, it's clear that the club is working with the council to produce a stadium with community sports facilities, and which has always been the intention from the outset. The original point put by wakeyrule was that wakeyrule wrote: .. I was under the impression that (until you ran short of money) it was a stadium for the Tigers... How have the plans changed to make it a community stadium?... If it is genuinely going to be built as a community stadium then I have no objections at all to WMDC helping out - if not, then the council should steer clear and use the money to benefit the community they represent The facts are these: The stadium was always intended to be a community stadium. The plans have not changed in that regard. Any input from WMDC would only have been towards the community facilities provided by the stadium. All this has been well-publicised in the past. I'm not on here for an argument, either. Because I'm a Cas fan, I've taken no interest in any of the plans for a new stadium for Trinity and I assume that when the Glasshoughton plans started, many Wakefield fans wouldn't have taken much interest in our plans. All I wanted to do was put the story straight. I've got no connections with anyone at the Council, Waystone or the Tigers so if you're looking for meaty stuff that's not available in the public domain, you've got the wrong bloke.