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Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:51 pm  

supercat wrote:

The poorest part of it all is that Both Cas and Wakey both got into superleague based on ability in winning the lower tier grand final..

Nope. We both got in in 2008 by being one of the 14 best licence applications. Where we were before that, or how we got there, is irrelevant.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:40 pm  

tb wrote:

Nope. We both got in in 2008 by being one of the 14 best licence applications. Where we were before that, or how we got there, is irrelevant.

Very true mate.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:42 pm  

Hatfield tiger wrote:

What people dont seem to relaise is that the RFL have said one club will come up if they meet the criteria.

The criteria in the article is simple the criteria they have to meet to apply. That is not the criteria they will be judged upon if they are allowed to apply.

Surly if all the current Super league clubs get at least a C grade (belive to be 4 points) on the license applications then how can they be replaced with a club from the lower league with only three points per say?

That would surly be wrong - would it not.

If say Cas and Wakey get foundations laid on the staduims and start to build then they must have a greater case to stay in Super league than say Widnes who will not have a competitive squad etc and therefore not tick that box on the criteria.

Thats just my view though - could be reading it wrong.

You've got that very wrong in my opinion. A Championship Club will be told in March 2011 that they are in (if they fulfil the 5 criteria). Following that decision all other teams have to submit an application by April 2011. So Championship clubs will not be judged on the same criteria as SL clubs unless they apply in the April tranche. I think that will be the RFL get out of jail card to put Toulouse in having granted Widnes a licence in March.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:03 am  

Uptoncat wrote:

At the end of the day the game is a farce. It's corrupt, I couldn't care less if I watched a Wakey Cas derby in the middle of a public park. I really really hope we get planning permission, you sort out your funding and get the land from Polar Ford and Pizza Hut for access sorted out and foundations are being dug at both sites before the end of the year. This really would put the cat amongst the pigeons and it would be very interesting to see the powers that be decisions and reasoning behind it. Can't see what more Salford, and especially Quins and Crusaders offer more than us, also Bradford must be on shaky ground and Hull KR with their debts aren't exactly a model club. The decision has probably already been made and is obviously out of our hands, but for me Super League will be worse off without either of us.

I could'nt agree with you more mate,but I think that the RFL and SKY are looking for a scapegoat or to shaft a club somewhere's along the line. It should'nt be us or you, if it does happen the game will go backwards and not forward as they think it will.

RFL stick franchise up your ringpiece.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:37 am  

I don't think this changes anything in the real world - Salford, Wakey and Cas got their franchise last time round on promises of ground improvement or new stadia. Salford of course are confirmed moving, so that leaves Cas and Wakey.

We all knew then that if we were neither in a stadia, or actual tangible building work happening and a road map to completion - we would all be out on our backside and that still stands. So, the equation hasn't changed - with the exception of the brief dalliance over a possible share, then situ now is exactly as was the day after we were granted a franchise.

The only way I think we can stop BOTH clubs being outed in lieu of Toulouse and Widnes is BOTH building a stadium - if neither get theirs built, then I think we could seriously be in danger of losing both from the top flight...... Which is why I think Wakey were too quick to dismiss share discussions and studies, becuase now it is a straight foot race to pour the first concrete. I don't believe the WF economy will support 2 multi million development projects 3 Mway junctions apart in the same year - look at the funding hole and problems finishing the Wakey shopping centre?

So - this is now simply whoever lays a brick first wins in my opinion without bias towards either club.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:10 am  

"New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season," the licensing guidelines state. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/au ... per-league

"New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season," the licensing guidelines state. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/au ... per-league

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:12 am  

Very nice... the stitch up continues

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:12 am  

We have been paying RW good money (£90K/year by rumour), for the past few years with our 'meeting of the Superleague requirements for 2012' being his primary paid objective. There are now becoming less and less places for him to hide behind uninformative, 're-worded', contradictory or repeat statements.

In 2011 the application will not accept the words 'hoping to make a major announcment!'.

As the fans, we are here basically Sh*tting ourselves about where the axe will fall and whether it will come down to another teams bad luck.....or a bent RFL decision, which will ultimately rule us out or in.

Step forward Mr Wright and tell us what you have done to ensure that we don't find ourselves in such a position! Tell us exactly why (not how we hope) we will be successful.

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:19 am  

The club needs to react to this with a detailed plan of when things will happen. Unless the build begins before the end of the year, there isn't a hope in hell of it being opened by 2012

Re: Licences - At least 1 SL club to go // Fate decided in July : Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:10 am  

Wilderspool memories wrote:

I tip either cas,wakey or salford to take the drop.

Got anymore tips?