: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:46 am  

Just seen the pass that put joe out of the game.
What an idiot just throwing it anywhere not even looking where he was passing the ball.
He needs to pull is socks up or ship out.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:00 am  

castigers222 wrote:

Evans is the clear choice over Si by a country mile...... Evans is solid in both defence and attack.

Cannot see Si being in the team when Jones,Ferres and Westy are back fit......

As for Fa'asso would have him back in a heartbeat..... watched him play for Newcastle loads of times and he has gone from strength to strength.....not lazy anymore infact works his socks off and takes the ball in really hard, what has surprised me mostly though is that his support play is fantastic he is always up there when the Knights make breaks.......He is however a interchange player not a full 80 minute SR but I think that would fit in well interchanging with either Jones or Ferres as needed.....

he will never ocme back to cas he hated every minute of it!!!

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:09 am  

We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe, he didn't have a good game but then neither did the majority of our other players.
I wish our vocal minority would get off his back and get behind him!
While ever he's a Cas player we should be cheering him on, making him proud to be pulling on the famous black and amber shirt!

I really do believe Sione will come good for us, it really does remind me of a similar situation with Vowlesy, he was given loads of stick by sections of our support as he struggled at first with us, but he went on to become a legend and there's every possibility that Sione could do the same. Maybe to compare him with Nikau was wrong, but when I first saw him pull on a Cas shirt, that's who he reminded me of, he looked the part then and I'm sure he can again, he just needs his confidence back and we should get behind him to try help encourage him!

There's no way Sione can be put in the same category as Rudder (stand off) who was made to look good in Oz because at that time he was playing alongside one of the best scrum halves in the game, whoever brought him over here didn't do their homework on Mr Rudder.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:16 am  

danny boy1 wrote:

We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe,

Did you see the way he just flung the ball anywhere, he saw the defence coming up to tackle him and just throw the ball away.
Joe had to rectify the situation and was hit with out the ball.
Sione wants to have some guts and take the ball in himself not throw it anywhere when he see's the defence infront of him.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:18 am  

danny boy1 wrote:

We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe, he didn't have a good game but then neither did the majority of our other players.
I wish our vocal minority would get off his back and get behind him!
While ever he's a Cas player we should be cheering him on, making him proud to be pulling on the famous black and amber shirt!

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:36 am  

poppys mum wrote:

Did you see the way he just flung the ball anywhere, he saw the defence coming up to tackle him and just throw the ball away.
Joe had to rectify the situation and was hit with out the ball.
Sione wants to have some guts and take the ball in himself not throw it anywhere when he see's the defence infront of him.

Are you seriously suggesting that Sione's failed offloads are responsible for Joe's injury? Get a grip.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:29 am  

philukleeds wrote:

It is not laughable he could lace nikau's boots .

that should read boot

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:07 am  

danny boy1 wrote:

We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe, he didn't have a good game but then neither did the majority of our other players.
I wish our vocal minority would get off his back and get behind him!
While ever he's a Cas player we should be cheering him on, making him proud to be pulling on the famous black and amber shirt!

I really do believe Sione will come good for us, it really does remind me of a similar situation with Vowlesy, he was given loads of stick by sections of our support as he struggled at first with us, but he went on to become a legend and there's every possibility that Sione could do the same. Maybe to compare him with Nikau was wrong, but when I first saw him pull on a Cas shirt, that's who he reminded me of, he looked the part then and I'm sure he can again, he just needs his confidence back and we should get behind him to try help encourage him!

There's no way Sione can be put in the same category as Rudder (stand off) who was made to look good in Oz because at that time he was playing alongside one of the best scrum halves in the game, whoever brought him over here didn't do their homework on Mr Rudder.

Nice to see a few fans understand and appreciate the situation.

Top post.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 am  

danny boy1 wrote:

Whilst I agree he hasn't yet played to his full potential, I don't think he deserves some of the criticism he's been getting, I honestly think there are times when he tries too hard - seems as though he's trying to create something special every time he gets the ball. I think we will see the best of him now the grounds are getting harder, I want to see him running out wide, not barging up the middle, reckon he could be devastating, his defence has definitely been ok though, some of his bone crushing big hits have been awesome!
Let's get behind Sione instead of knocking him, I'm sure it will make a difference to him, just look at Rangi Chase now he's playing with confidence.

I agree, the criticism is sometimes pushed to the limits, like fans cheering when he's substituted and booing him off, these things are gunna do nothing for his confidence

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:52 am  

poppys mum wrote:

Did you see the way he just flung the ball anywhere, he saw the defence coming up to tackle him and just throw the ball away.
Joe had to rectify the situation and was hit with out the ball.
Sione wants to have some guts and take the ball in himself not throw it anywhere when he see's the defence infront of him.

I think you have it wrong there, he didn't fling the ball because of a lack of guts, he does it because he's the type of player who likes to keep the ball alive.!
He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.

Put Sione in a team like the Saints and he would look much more impressive, as other players would support him when he had the ball, they throw passes out seemingly willy nilly but because they support the man with the ball better than we do, the ball tends to stick. Did you see how Sean Long squirmed a pass out to no one, yet because of the backing up Saints were able to make something of it.

I'm not saying Sione's right throwing passes out every time that he does, but that is his style of play ...and whilst he should be more selective with his passing, our guys should support him (and others) better than they are and then we might reap the rewards that seem to come all too often to St. Helens.

But to get back to your point PM, he threw out a pass because he quite rightly thought there was something on, not because of a lack of bottle but unfortunately the pass wasn't executed as well as it could have been and the move came to nought.