: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:29 pm  

danny boy1 wrote:

I think you have it wrong there, he didn't fling the ball because of a lack of guts, he does it because he's the type of player who likes to keep the ball alive.!
He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.

Put Sione in a team like the Saints and he would look much more impressive, as other players would support him when he had the ball, they throw passes out seemingly willy nilly but because they support the man with the ball better than we do, the ball tends to stick. Did you see how Sean Long squirmed a pass out to no one, yet because of the backing up Saints were able to make something of it.

I'm not saying Sione's right throwing passes out every time that he does, but that is his style of play ...and whilst he should be more selective with his passing, our guys should support him (and others) better than they are and then we might reap the rewards that seem to come all too often to St. Helens.

But to get back to your point PM, he threw out a pass because he quite rightly thought there was something on, not because of a lack of bottle but unfortunately the pass wasn't executed as well as it could have been and the move came to nought.

he needs to be able to catch the ball befoe he even thinks about passing it!

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:43 pm  

lbennett wrote:

I agree, the criticism is sometimes pushed to the limits, like fans cheering when he's substituted and booing him off, these things are gunna do nothing for his confidence

did you not see the first 20 mins???

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:02 pm  

ParanoidAndroid wrote:

Are you seriously suggesting that Sione's failed offloads are responsible for Joe's injury? Get a grip.

No i did'nt say it was sione's fault.
I said joe had to rectify or try to rectify a stupid pass from sione.

I dont need to get a grip i'm quite level headed thanks

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:55 pm  

The Injury was a pure accident But I do have to say says it all when we was taken off after 7 minutes.

Matterson said some of the guys are gona be under the pump this week he has to be one.

I would bench him for this week and let him know he gotta up his game to get back in. Injuries permitting of course.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:20 pm  

He's lucky there's a load of injuries otherwise he would be lucky to make the bench the way he's been playing, Widders (in the limited game time he's got so far) has looked better, Jones & Ferres are no brainers, as is Westerman - that really leaves no room for Faumuina, a week or 2 in the reserves would probably be the kick up the jacksy he needs too.

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:43 pm  

playdaball wrote:

that should read boot

that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:18 pm  

mirfieldcat wrote:

that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Ditto

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:53 am  

[quote="danny boy1"]He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.


Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding

The very first minute of Sundays game showed the level of guts, looking at the defence coming to tackle him instead of the ball-sums his season up.

As for big hits

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:00 am  

Tigerpie wrote:

danny boy1 wrote:

He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.


Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding

The very first minute of Sundays game showed the level of guts, looking at the defence coming to tackle him instead of the ball-sums his season up.

As for big hits

I've been to every single game this season and seen Sione put in big hits in several of them. If he gets his timing wrong in executing such a tackle, then he would be the one splattered all over the ground...
...and looking at the defender when a player is going to receive the ball doesn't constitute a lack of bottle, it's something that happens to all players from time to time, generally when they are thinking ahead as to what they will do with the ball when they get it and how the oncoming tackler will impact on that.

As I've said a number of times, get behind Sione and I'm sure he will deliver the goods, he does seem to perform better in away games where supporters do tend to get behind the players more readily.