Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:51 pm  

deehell says cas will get letter from rfl about broken promises .what a laugh .this comeing from a fan of a club that has given rfl more broken promises than ive had broken teeth in my life time.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:02 pm  

I haven't read every post on this entire thread, but:

Would it work for us to allow Wakey to use Glasshoughton in an agreement like they were going to use Oakwell or Saints are at Widnes?
I mean, this could give us a lucrative revenue stream to underpin the project, the stadium will have a stadium management company, who would benefit from the match day sales, plus a rental agreement with a fixed term for Wakey to figure out their future.

So, taking out emotion: It is not a share, it is an alternate exactly like Saints, it gives Cas income guaranteed for a term to offset the build costs. Nobody loses their identity, because it is not like Inter and AC Milan, it is not a shared stadium.

Without a furore or all the emotion, if I was a pure business man and not a fan of either club - I fail to see any loss on any side. If at the end of Wakeys agreement, they're no longer franchised, could they continue in NL1 to rent, sure - if they do build a stadia, then the agreement can end.
The only thing a carefully managed agreement like this should do is underpin costs for Cas to launch the project. It is like building a block of flats and having a tennant for half of them before you lay a brick?

Fire away everyone, I am sure that this will upset some, but you have to think selfishly and sometimes, the long game is the most lucrative, even if it is difficult.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:46 pm  

mdean wrote:

I haven't read every post on this entire thread, but:

Would it work for us to allow Wakey to use Glasshoughton in an agreement like they were going to use Oakwell or Saints are at Widnes?
I mean, this could give us a lucrative revenue stream to underpin the project, the stadium will have a stadium management company, who would benefit from the match day sales, plus a rental agreement with a fixed term for Wakey to figure out their future.

So, taking out emotion: It is not a share, it is an alternate exactly like Saints, it gives Cas income guaranteed for a term to offset the build costs. Nobody loses their identity, because it is not like Inter and AC Milan, it is not a shared stadium.

Without a furore or all the emotion, if I was a pure business man and not a fan of either club - I fail to see any loss on any side. If at the end of Wakeys agreement, they're no longer franchised, could they continue in NL1 to rent, sure - if they do build a stadia, then the agreement can end.
The only thing a carefully managed agreement like this should do is underpin costs for Cas to launch the project. It is like building a block of flats and having a tennant for half of them before you lay a brick?

Fire away everyone, I am sure that this will upset some, but you have to think selfishly and sometimes, the long game is the most lucrative, even if it is difficult.

Err like we keep getting reminded by our Wakey friends, We dont have a ground for them to share.

AG is talking PR

I just wish all concerned would stop playing games with the emotions of the fans, come clean and just let enjoy the game again !!

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:45 pm  

swifty62 wrote:

lot of others see it that way too. therefore the RFL should also see it and not give franchise to the pair of you. you have had 3 years and nothing done whilst others have built new grounds yet not allowed franchise.

So you would class salford HKR bradford in this as well.
I believe they have old tired stadiums as well.

Oh and lets not forget the franchise IS NOT just about stadiums.
Check out the RFL web sight.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:13 pm  

Isn't it funny certain posters haven't been on here for a while and suddenly when Ted mark II pops up AKA Mr Glovers sharing speach they start to come out of the woodwork again with their knowledge of public Inquiries and Castlefords bank balance. Tell ya what as they are so good at predicting whats going to happen in the future makes me wonder why they don't put the lottery on and put all their winnings into Wakey

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:59 am  

Bonzo wrote:

Perhaps you should do a bit of homework before making such a stupid and ill-informed comment again.

Run along.

not ill-informed at all. FACT. cas have not yet even started a new ground, one that they promised would be built before the next franchise. that was 3 years ago and still not built and no nearer FACTS.

widnes, leigh, halifax. all excluded last time yet all have new grounds now.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:00 am  

smoking monkey wrote:

Doubt it very much because:-

(a) Halifax look second best to Cas in almost everything except Stadia criteria.
(b) the appetite for a third club to join Hudds/Bradford in that area is probably less than that for 2 clubs in WMDC
(c) for PR reasons there will be reluctance to exclude a second side especially one with anything like top 8 prospects

If Wakey go this time our day of reckoning will come 3 years hence.

based on still will have no ground built. on that admittance should go now.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:41 am  

Gaslight wrote:

1. Newmarket will never be built
2. Cas have options:
B: Keepmoat Stadium for a year
C: Redevelop the PROBIZ Coliseum

For some reason best known to yourself you chose to ignore my request for an explantion as to why you think Newmarket will not be built, just in case this is just an oversight on your part is this just an assumption of yours as per usual or do you actually know something, which if going on your past record regarding what you have announced about the new stadium at Cas like the full run down of finances in place and the timescale of the build "which you were cocksure was goingto happen" it will be very little if anything at all, your reply if there is one of course should make interesting reading. Just one other thing regarding your options as stated above, I would suggest that you seem slightly confused because if you are moving to GH as everybody seems to think and I for one do not doubt it for one minute, after all this is what this thread is about ie Wakey sharing at GH, then you have also got me and others confused because if we are all going to GH why are you thinking about other options vis a vis redeveloping the probitz, if you are not too proud to accept advice I would say to you either give your head a good shake to get rid of what is rattling about in there or leave the grown up stuff to the grown ups hth.

Please note I have also refrained from sticking one of those silly submission smilies on here because they are only used by insecure youths like yourself

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:23 am  

swifty62 wrote:

not ill-informed at all. FACT. cas have not yet even started a new ground, one that they promised would be built before the next franchise. that was 3 years ago and still not built and no nearer FACTS.

widnes, leigh, halifax. all excluded last time yet all have new grounds now.

As I said, the information on this is publicly available if you do your homework but if you'd prefer ignorance to form the basis of your "FACTS" in your blind dislike of all things Cas, then so be it.

Re: Wakey and the 'Sharing' option : Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:20 pm  

swifty62 wrote:

not ill-informed at all. FACT. cas have not yet even started a new ground, one that they promised would be built before the next franchise. that was 3 years ago and still not built and no nearer FACTS.

widnes, leigh, halifax. all excluded last time yet all have new grounds now.

Maybe you should research the reasons why things have not moved quickly. I'll give you a clue - it's on Wheldon Road.