Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:29 am  

Matt King's Barber wrote:

If James Graham came out and said "I find that offensive", then you might have a basis. However I am 99% sure he gets worse from his own team mates

Just a note. When it's your own mates doing it that is one thing. A bunch of halfwitted Leeds fans doing it is entirely different. They should all be carted off for lobotomies.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:31 am  

Matt King's Barber wrote: The point I am trying to make is, imagine the St Helens dressing room. can you see jokes being made by one player about Graham being ginger? YES. can you see jokes being made by one player about Eastmond being black? NO. if a St Helens player announced he was gay, can you see jokes (of the same calibre that were chanted at Castleford) being made by one player towards the other player? NO. On the basis of that you cannot equate illegal abuse with what is common at every sports venue across the country. Oh, is it time to bring up the fact that Gareth Thomas seems to want his team mates to take the mick out of him for being gay? How about this quote? Gareth Thomas wrote: "But I love them taking the mickey. We've got another Australian on the wing, Nick Youngquest, and he's a gay icon. He's been on the cover of Attitude but he's comfortable in his [straight] sexuality. It still gives the boys a laugh because they say to me: 'Oooo, he's not so happy now you're taking over.' Me and Nick are good mates and we'll walk in the room together and someone will shout: 'Here come the girls!'" Link And that complements this: SaintsFan wrote: Just a note. When it's your own mates doing it that is one thing. A bunch of halfwitted Leeds fans doing it is entirely different. They should all be carted off for lobotomies. Which is the point, isn't it?

Matt King's Barber wrote: The point I am trying to make is, imagine the St Helens dressing room. can you see jokes being made by one player about Graham being ginger? YES. can you see jokes being made by one player about Eastmond being black? NO. if a St Helens player announced he was gay, can you see jokes (of the same calibre that were chanted at Castleford) being made by one player towards the other player? NO. On the basis of that you cannot equate illegal abuse with what is common at every sports venue across the country. Oh, is it time to bring up the fact that Gareth Thomas seems to want his team mates to take the mick out of him for being gay? How about this quote? Gareth Thomas wrote: "But I love them taking the mickey. We've got another Australian on the wing, Nick Youngquest, and he's a gay icon. He's been on the cover of Attitude but he's comfortable in his [straight] sexuality. It still gives the boys a laugh because they say to me: 'Oooo, he's not so happy now you're taking over.' Me and Nick are good mates and we'll walk in the room together and someone will shout: 'Here come the girls!'" Link And that complements this: SaintsFan wrote: Just a note. When it's your own mates doing it that is one thing. A bunch of halfwitted Leeds fans doing it is entirely different. They should all be carted off for lobotomies. Which is the point, isn't it?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:34 pm  

IIRC the idiots did not sing about the official masturbating. They said that he didn't know what he was doing.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:47 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

They should all be carted off for lobotomies.

Would anyone be able to tell the differance?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:50 pm  

Matt King's Barber wrote:

Ask James Graham if he feels bullied after being called fat or ginger, I would bet my life savings that he gets worse from his own team mates.

The reason I can't wait to see the back of your club is;

the fact that there are references to the GMB Union everywhere (I <3 Thatcher),
the fact that I can't relax because I fear the stadium could at any time collapse,
the fact that it is a nightmare to get off your car park on the coach because they always get parked at the back,
the crazy kids that stand by the screen at your stadium (why do all the males have mullets?),
I like Widnes.

Fancy a bum?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:58 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

I was at the game, am fat and have a ginger beard. I thought the South Stand were chanting about me, and I'm very offended

I am neither fat or ginger, but I am a w***er. But I was very offended as I am a propper b@st@rd!

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:16 pm  

Speedy wrote: Why is it more dangerous ? The problem is victimisation no matter who it is, The point of this thread is that there will be nothing said to Leeds or a fine imposed to Leeds, you know that and i know that (and so they shouldnt), But once you set a precident than it must be done fairly and across the board, Cas fans aren't intent on Leeds getting fined or any other club for that matter, the point is Cas have been fined 40k which is ridiculous and if it was Leeds or any other club i would say the same. Castleford cannot stop people chanting as much as Leeds or anyone else can, whether we like it or not (look at football when a certain spice girl was supposed to have taken something in a different orafice) what could be done about it.. Nothing, What was done about it Nothing. The differance is that Football have millions upon millions to take the FA to court, Rugby teams dont and it can break them. But the chanting that Leeds did was clearly audible and could / has upset some people with ginger hair or maybe someone who's father has done a runner. Do they get any come back, obviously not in your eyes, "its banter thats all", Dont you think maybe it was banter at Cas, did anyone turn up with anti gay slogans at the match ? did anyone stand outside waiting for him to come out of the changing rooms to shout abuse at him ? No (maybe they were frightened to) but maybe just maybe it is the same banter, but some people today can't accept that and want blood, well fine, It must be across the board for everyone, but there is more consistancy in our lasses pudding mix than the RFL have in them, The bandwagon is rolling and quite a few are jumping on board but the danger is not the homophobic chants, the danger is that the RFL are becoming a dictitoral body, who have the power to cost clubs dearly, how can they justify 40k, who dreamed this figure up, look at this this was systematic abuse by his own mother, 250 quid not 40,000, there was proof who did it, There isnt a hope in hell of finding who chanted at Cas no more than people being identified at Leeds for chanting at Graham or the Ref. I believe Cas have to go through the appeal process (which will fail, i know it, and so does every one else) but then must take it further to the courts Well, she could have said "Not tonight David, me ring is sore."

Speedy wrote: Why is it more dangerous ? The problem is victimisation no matter who it is, The point of this thread is that there will be nothing said to Leeds or a fine imposed to Leeds, you know that and i know that (and so they shouldnt), But once you set a precident than it must be done fairly and across the board, Cas fans aren't intent on Leeds getting fined or any other club for that matter, the point is Cas have been fined 40k which is ridiculous and if it was Leeds or any other club i would say the same. Castleford cannot stop people chanting as much as Leeds or anyone else can, whether we like it or not (look at football when a certain spice girl was supposed to have taken something in a different orafice) what could be done about it.. Nothing, What was done about it Nothing. The differance is that Football have millions upon millions to take the FA to court, Rugby teams dont and it can break them. But the chanting that Leeds did was clearly audible and could / has upset some people with ginger hair or maybe someone who's father has done a runner. Do they get any come back, obviously not in your eyes, "its banter thats all", Dont you think maybe it was banter at Cas, did anyone turn up with anti gay slogans at the match ? did anyone stand outside waiting for him to come out of the changing rooms to shout abuse at him ? No (maybe they were frightened to) but maybe just maybe it is the same banter, but some people today can't accept that and want blood, well fine, It must be across the board for everyone, but there is more consistancy in our lasses pudding mix than the RFL have in them, The bandwagon is rolling and quite a few are jumping on board but the danger is not the homophobic chants, the danger is that the RFL are becoming a dictitoral body, who have the power to cost clubs dearly, how can they justify 40k, who dreamed this figure up, look at this this was systematic abuse by his own mother, 250 quid not 40,000, there was proof who did it, There isnt a hope in hell of finding who chanted at Cas no more than people being identified at Leeds for chanting at Graham or the Ref. I believe Cas have to go through the appeal process (which will fail, i know it, and so does every one else) but then must take it further to the courts Well, she could have said "Not tonight David, me ring is sore."

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:20 pm  

Would those defending these 'ginger' chants mind awfully if I called you all a bunch of f**king hypocrites?

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:24 pm  

Riggins wrote:

So that's OK then to make fun of big ginger haired people is it?

It's not as bad as gay-hating.

Re: Leeds £40K fine coming? : Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:25 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

It's not as bad as gay-hating.

Why isn't it?