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: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:59 pm  
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I as an ex-unioin official & member of the Labour Party


Do i know you ? Two things in common there mate
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: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:36 pm  
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Are you voting Lib Dem at the next election?

Yep.
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: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:10 pm  
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Do i know you ? Two things in common there mate
Some of us still doing both, but must say am not a big fan of our MP! and also remember what the tory's did and want to do again :!:
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: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:22 pm  
I myself don't mind Yvette Cooper, it's Wakefield Council leader Peter Box i'm not too keen on. I hope our Lee does well at Hull Uni and decides to try and take his job. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley doesn't end up with Yvette's job in a few years time though.
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:19 am  
Old Labour policies are fine, but unfortunately would not win an election and had it not been for Yvette and many of her contemporaries, then the Tories would be in power and we would have already seen the demise of the NHS and so much more than is already the case. The fact that has to be faced up to is that there are not enough traditional labour party voters in the country to vote Labour into power these days and the party has had to move a little to the right (OK some might say a lot), or otherwise be doomed to opposition for keeps.

Unfortunately, because the labour party has had to move with the times to capture the middle of the road voter, those on the left of the party have become more and more disillusioned and will vote for anyone but the official labour candidate, as we’ve seen recently with the people of Barnsley voting the BNP into power, they can’t see that voting against such as Yvette Cooper, is simply playing into the hands of the Tories and letting them in by the back door. OK Yvette is relatively safe in her seat, but others are not so fortunate and I have no doubt we'll see the poor get even poorer if (or when) David Cameron and his cronies are elected.

OK some of the things this labour government have done haven’t been very clever, and some of the stories coming out in the expenses claims scandal have tarnished the reputation of all MP’s. But where would the lower paid be if the tories were in power? well for a start there would be no minimum wage, that will no doubt go with pressure from the CBI, then watch for the NHS and more public services disappear by stealth. You may not agree with everything Yvette and the labour party are doing, but you can be sure that the alternative will be far less palatable.
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:10 am  
Well said Danny 100% agree the tory's just tried to get a bill though to scrap the min wage and thats when their not in power!!
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:18 am  
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i am actually on leave in August but will be away on me hols, if i can get connected up on wifi i will try to keep intouch :wink:


Please dont feel that you have too - the holiday break will do us all some good :!: :lol:
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:25 pm  
no i insist i will deffinately be in throughout my holidays i think you guys are the best!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:41 pm  
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"then watch for the NHS and more public services disappear by stealth. You may not agree with everything Yvette and the labour party are doing, but you can be sure that the alternative will be far less palatable."

Working in the public sector myself it is very worrying that you think all is fine and dandy and cuts haven’t ravaged some of the most dedicated workers in the country, Ambulance staff pushed to breaking point not enough vehicles to cover areas, last weekend Castleford Pontefract and some of its surrounding areas had 3 Ambulances manned, Fire and rescue services are being cut back in the guise of supposed modernisation not just putting the Fire fighters life’s at risk but also the general publics, police are pushed by figures and quotas and I have been talking to a few disillusioned officers who are saying they are pressured into making petty easy arrests to get their figures up on a monthly basis, as for the NHS my Auntie is a nurse and I am shocked at the pressure and over work Nurses have. yes im sure the Tories have plans but will it be much worse I cant see it myself, this is the tip of public workers never mind the council workers seeing colleagues laid off, and uncertain futures, there was a time when if you were a Local Government worker you had a job for life you had to endure lower than private sector pay but a half decent pension was the light at the end of the tunnel. even that if Labour have their way will be gone, as plans are already being done and rumours are rife that this is another cheap shot to save money........not improve services..
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: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:38 pm  
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Danny boy wrote
"then watch for the NHS and more public services disappear by stealth. You may not agree with everything Yvette and the labour party are doing, but you can be sure that the alternative will be far less palatable."

Working in the public sector myself it is very worrying that you think all is fine and dandy and cuts haven’t ravaged some of the most dedicated workers in the country, Ambulance staff pushed to breaking point not enough vehicles to cover areas, last weekend Castleford Pontefract and some of its surrounding areas had 3 Ambulances manned, Fire and rescue services are being cut back in the guise of supposed modernisation not just putting the Fire fighters life’s at risk but also the general publics, police are pushed by figures and quotas and I have been talking to a few disillusioned officers who are saying they are pressured into making petty easy arrests to get their figures up on a monthly basis, as for the NHS my Auntie is a nurse and I am shocked at the pressure and over work Nurses have. yes im sure the Tories have plans but will it be much worse I cant see it myself, this is the tip of public workers never mind the council workers seeing colleagues laid off, and uncertain futures, there was a time when if you were a Local Government worker you had a job for life you had to endure lower than private sector pay but a half decent pension was the light at the end of the tunnel. even that if Labour have their way will be gone, as plans are already being done and rumours are rife that this is another cheap shot to save money........not improve services..


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