: Mon May 18, 2009 4:22 pm  

So back to my original point – did Shenton commit a ‘Professional’ foul i.e. did he deliberately commit a foul to prevent the opposition from scoring?

: Mon May 18, 2009 5:16 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

So back to my original point – did Shenton commit a ‘Professional’ foul i.e. did he deliberately commit a foul to prevent the opposition from scoring?

Professional foul - perhaps.
Would Leeds have scored had Shenton not picked the ball up - unlikely.
Would McGuire have been tackled short - likely.
Would Shenton have still been penalised for being offside - possibly.

Do you recall any player been given 10 minutes in the sin bin in similar circumstances?

Without at least a precedent I'd have thought he could consider himself very unlucky to receive any further punishment in the circumstances.

: Mon May 18, 2009 5:54 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Professional foul - perhaps.
Would Leeds have scored had Shenton not picked the ball up - unlikely.
Would McGuire have been tackled short - likely.
Would Shenton have still been penalised for being offside - possibly.

Do you recall any player been given 10 minutes in the sin bin in similar circumstances?

Without at least a precedent I'd have thought he could consider himself very unlucky to receive any further punishment in the circumstances.

Don't recall a player ever being penalised in a similar situation and don’t think Shenton should have under the circumstances but, by the letter of the law, it was a professional foul. Although this point is purely academic now.

: Mon May 18, 2009 5:57 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

Don't recall a player ever being penalised in a similar situation and don’t think Shenton should have under the circumstances but, by the letter of the law, it was a professional foul. Although this point is purely academic now.

It is academic as to what Shenton did ( I'd have done the same ). Therefore maybe this thread has run its course as the game has been over since Friday night.

Thank you.

: Mon May 18, 2009 6:27 pm  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

Don't recall a player ever being penalised in a similar situation and don’t think Shenton should have under the circumstances but, by the letter of the law, it was a professional foul. Although this point is purely academic now.

You now don't think Shenton should have even been penalised for being offside?

You've come along way from demanding his sending off and suspension from the other day.

As luck would have it Ian Smith (yet again) refereed the incident perfectly on the night.

: Mon May 18, 2009 6:42 pm  

tvoc wrote:

You now don't think Shenton should have even been penalised for being offside?

You've come along way from demanding his sending off and suspension from the other day.

As luck would have it Ian Smith (yet again) refereed the incident perfectly on the night.

He might have been different if Sinfield had missed the penalty.

: Mon May 18, 2009 7:04 pm  

tvoc wrote:

You now don't think Shenton should have even been penalised for being offside?

You've come along way from demanding his sending off and suspension from the other day.

As luck would have it Ian Smith (yet again) refereed the incident perfectly on the night.

Misunderstanding my friend – Shenton was deservedly punished for the offside – an absolute offence I believe it is referred to.

No – was saying that the penalty was sufficient punishment under the circumstances although in the true definition of the laws it was a ‘pro – foul’ and, under current RFL guide –lines, he may have been banned for life and forced to watch black a white re-runs of ‘I love Lucy’ on a 13" portable T.V.