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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Sat May 25, 2024 5:41 pm  
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Simple - go back to raiding Salford - Rowley as Coach, Blease as DoR



Was about to say this myself, both would be great additions
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 6:45 am  
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Simple - go back to raiding Salford - Rowley as Coach, Blease as DoR

Bingo, a DOR who has proved himself time and again
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 6:56 am  
Salford have shown they can build and maintain a quality side on a budget. That's not really evidence they could build a team to win things.
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 8:19 am  
At that point you need to project how that work might look without the considerable constraints he works under at Salford, no guarantees, but better than continuing on with the current set up, which only guarantees more of the same rubbish.

Bit like when we took Tony Smith from Huddersfield, back when GH had his finger on the pulse.
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 8:21 am  
they have proved they can get decisions right, time and again.
GH is the opposite
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 8:56 am  
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they have proved they can get decisions right, time and again.
GH is the opposite
Hmm not sure about that they had to sell their best players to us to stop themselves going bust.
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 9:04 am  
how is that down to.blease and Rowley?
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 9:07 am  
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I honestly don't know how many times it has to be repeated for it to go in but there is clearly a big difference between on the field management and off it. No one can deny he does great stuff off the field, it is on the field that he is clearly past it. That is why we continue to fail and never move forward.

It is a director of rugby position or whatever we want to call it that we desperately need. GH is fine to stay running the club behind the scenes but someone else with a more modern take on coach + squad building to takeover that side of the club. It's mental how many times fans seem to deliberately confuse the two different aspects of running the club. At this point it feels deliberate to shut down the debate.

It's a terrible strawmen argument, oh you want us to pick better coaches and players? Well what about our lovely stadium! Lads we want a rugby team to support, believe in and entertain us. We don't support a rugby stadium or a financial statement.


You make absolute sense and the “We love Gawwy” team you respond to just don’t get it. Hetherington no doubt a good administrator and organiser off the pitch. But look at his choices of coach since McDermott. RSmith is an extreme lite weight and has shown he has nothing new to offer. Compare him to the new coach on the block. Sam Burgess who’s coaching credentials were untested but Warrington RL had the belief and self trust to know Burgess has charisma and knows how to make players work hard which translates to great entertaining RL which spills out onto the terraces, which gets people talking, which means people say to their friends work colleagues etc “ you should come down and watch wire, it’s really entertaining, which adds money to the pot, which enables the clubs to do ground improvements AND buy better players and great coaching staff.
Warrington took on Daryl Powell based on him taking the Castleford from almost extinction to mediocrity at best BUT they were big enough to say it failed, he failed, he was the wrong man and Wire needed to make a change and that’s what dynamic-management is all about ie if it’s not working then fix it. If it is working then don’t ie Tony Smith in his pomp.
Rohan Smith had a lucky start with the CC win. It was an amazing opportunity to go on from there but he has no history, no personality and no charisma and Hetherington has yet again tried to justify yet another poor on field appointment.
Hetherington shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near coach and player acquisition. Caddick is living on past memories and sentiment if he cannot see that. But next year he will see season ticket sales fall again which means less shirts sold, less beers sold, less kick back from franchise sales, less money generally and then it will be full circle to the club being in financial abyss space.
In the past Hetherington did what many other clubs did tightened the club belt. I had dealings with him when he and his mate Ralph Rimmer were prancing around Sheffield like they owned the place and look what happened to him and the club.
Leeds will stay in mediocrity until Hetherington retires or has to stand down for personal reasons. Meanwhile the Leeds fans diminish and like many I speak to won’t renew next year as you can watch on Sky without the pain of a 1 hour drive back after an inept display on the pitch
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 9:39 am  
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how is that down to.blease and Rowley?
Blease signing players that were not affordable i would think as DOR you would also be informed of finances.Under GH I doubt we would ever have to sell to stop the club going bust.
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Re: Gawry Hetherington : Mon May 27, 2024 9:41 am  
he wouldn't have been allowed to sign them if they wernt affordable.
he still has to get the ok from above.
I'm not sure you know how a D.O.R. works.
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