Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:58 pm  

There were some weird scenes on Saturday and it looked to me like quite a few were tanked up but people have a right to call for Smith to be sacked.

In terms of embarrassing behaviour I think at least one of our players deliberately dialled it in on Saturday . I reckon 2 did but 1 of them was less obvious.

I won’t name them but when Smith goes , they both need a Scarborough warning from the new coach.

On that front I’d have Wane as first choice as new coach , he may not want it but most of this team need a strong coach who tells them what he wants and takes no poop

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:12 pm  

I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.

I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.

RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:21 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.

I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.

RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.

Id much prefer Brad Arthur over Wane. I think he'd be a better fit for us.

I reckon Smith will actually go on to do well somewhere in the future, which is why I don’t like the whole ‘fraud’ thing

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:45 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.

I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.

RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.

Not sure I know what “unfettered” rights are but calling for a coach to be sacked is just freedom of speech to me, especially when IMO he should have been removed with GH last year.

Anyway, I agree we need an older experienced coach who is a good man manager. My lad wants it to be Brad Arthur as well.
Personally, I don’t, I think he is a good coach but I think we need a coach players fear and respect more than he brings. But that is just my view from a long distance

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:51 pm  

christopher wrote:

Id much prefer Brad Arthur over Wane. I think he'd be a better fit for us.

I reckon Smith will actually go on to do well somewhere in the future, which is why I don’t like the whole ‘fraud’ thing

Arthur has to be in the Leeds thought process you would think yes.

I don’t take any pleasure out of saying that RS looks boxed into a corner. I expected us to win against Hull quite well with the side we had… too many now out of form or not up to standard.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:55 pm  

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:

Not sure I know what “unfettered” rights are but calling for a coach to be sacked is just freedom of speech to me, especially when IMO he should have been removed with GH last year.

Anyway, I agree we need an older experienced coach who is a good man manager. My lad wants it to be Brad Arthur as well.
Personally, I don’t, I think he is a good coach but I think we need a coach players fear and respect more than he brings. But that is just my view from a long distance

Doesn’t RS have a right to do a tough job without mobs baying for his head? Or other fans have rights to attend games without a beered up gang acting and chanting aggressively? I take my 5 year old, what about his rights to feel safe?

One person’s rights often infringe on another’s (e.g. right to protest) - how about we consider the impact of our actions on other people? Maybe have manners?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:28 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Doesn’t RS have a right to do a tough job without mobs baying for his head? Or other fans have rights to attend games without a beered up gang acting and chanting aggressively? I take my 5 year old, what about his rights to feel safe?

One person’s rights often infringe on another’s (e.g. right to protest) - how about we consider the impact of our actions on other people? Maybe have manners?

I disagree completely with the beered up mob having a go at each other but it’s a game of rugby league . Paying fans have a right to call for a coach to go , I think if people want to shout we want Rohan out that’s fair enough.

I also completely disagree with personal abuse on social media.

On Smith I agree with what Arthur saidI’m sure he has done his best and done it his way but like a boxer on the ropes he needs saving from further punishment.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:47 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I don’t take any pleasure out of saying that RS looks boxed into a corner. I expected us to win against Hull quite well with the side we had… too many now out of form or not up to standard.

Agree

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:47 am  

I'd be amazed if Brad Arthur left Aus. He'll just bide his time for a top job in Aus. Think Leeds would/should be looking at top assistants, someone like Josh Hannay or Dean Young

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:06 am  

I don't get the love for Brad Arthur. If people are complaining that appointing RS an unproven coach was a mistake then tell me about Brad Arthurs record, what has he won to make him so desirable. Other than caoching an NRL team for ten years without any silverware what makes him so wanted?