Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:35 am  

That's the chicken and egg problem with Sinfield. Unless he gets a run of games he won't get a chance to improve, but realistically he's not quite up to scratch yet so he's going to look poor at times and make mistakes he won't in a year or so.

I liked Arthur's interview after the game - we blew it in the first ten minutes with mistakes that pretty much killed the game. I guess the question will be whether current players can improve in those areas or its just who they are and we need different players. Personal view is that unless more than a few players are able to execute the basics better we will need different players. They had their new coach watching and started off like a pub team.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:39 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

I dunno, I just got a lil bit moist watching BA's interview on Sky. I like the way he presents himself and talks.

One of the big jobs he has over the next few months is to consult with Blease on the future of several players, and consider some new additions. His knowledge of NRL players is excellent and he will know who we need. Straight away I'd like us to retain him for 2025, I just think his discipline and experience is exactly what we need right now.

Hopefully we can persuade him. As for the team... honestly I'd be cutting a couple of players early if possible, as well as allowing a couple to leave at contract end this year. Nice to see McDonnell and Miller doing the rounds with the away fans after the game, those two are often last in the sheds after a game. Thought McDonnell was good overall again tonight but then I am a fanboy. We struggled with their big units down the middle again.

Miller is a class act. Constantly creating space around him. If he was in a decent team, he’d look sensational. He was also a class act after the game. My son and daughter had a picture taken with him, and he thanked all the supporters for going over.

As well as who you mentioned, Mom also came over, before the others.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:34 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

So soft, aren't we? No doubt Arthur will bring some discipline and direction but he'd have to be Harry Potter to turn this lot into a top six team. There's literally only Croft who looks like a true top flight player.

Yep penny for BA thoughts.. has a big job on his hands in not much time. I can’t believe we’re as bad or if not worse than last season…. It’s absolutely shocking

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:53 am  

Hope Sinfield gets a few games. He seemed to be given more responsibility in the 2nd half last night and we looked better for it. BA will hopefully allow him and Croft to call the shots and let Cameron Smith have a bit less involvement in attack. Sinfields defence is an issue and needs to
improve long term but if Arthur can improve defence generally then he won't be exposed as often.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:22 am  

Sinfield's D has always been the achilles heel. I thought he was a little more solid last night than he has been at first grade, but I've not watched it through again.

He's decent ball in hand and good kicking game too, but whether he'll make it or not it hard to say. There are a couple more halves coming through who might give him some competition in a couple of years.

We can have some confidence in the future, in that we have two young back rowers at least that I'm confident will make first grade, probably a couple of props also. The pack looks decent, rolled forward another year or two (I think we need 2 bridging signings of real quality here to plug the gap, as I've said before).

Halves, well I guess we just need one of Sinfield, Brown, Smith, F McCormack, White to come through to partner Croft.

Outside backs, we probably have less obvious talent in the juniors although a couple of prospects, but I do rate both Simpson and Smith, and we've already seen the potential Lumb has. I've not been happy with Newman and Momirovski this year overall.

A really good prop, a really good second row, and possibly a new 7 or centre and I think we're back at the races ish, with good prospects coming through in most positions for next year and beyond.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:42 am  

Arthur mentioned earning the right to play in his intervie as well as holding each other to account. Words that never crossed Smiths lips and gives him the upper hand within his first five minutes of being here.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:04 am  

Slightly surprised at no Frawley as he seems to be getting ever-so-slightly better week on week but Sinfield did well enough. Cam Smith is not playing well, taken a knock physically or mentally maybe or doing to much in defense ?. Like to see Frawley given a go at loose forward.
All very well wingers coming in to help out, but one set we only saw one forward Carry, and that was Cam smith. Our forwards are losing the energy battle and we loose the go forward, the backs come in too much and have no energy in attack. Tired people make mistakes, are Leeds simply not fit enough?

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:09 am  

BigRoy wrote:

Slightly surprised at no Frawley as he seems to be getting ever-so-slightly better week on week but Sinfield did well enough. Cam Smith is not playing well, taken a knock physically or mentally maybe or doing to much in defense ?. Like to see Frawley given a go at loose forward.
All very well wingers coming in to help out, but one set we only saw one forward Carry, and that was Cam smith. Our forwards are losing the energy battle and we loose the go forward, the backs come in too much and have no energy in attack. Tired people make mistakes, are Leeds simply not fit enough?

I don't know if Cam Smith just needs to bulk up a little and move more into the middle like his older brother. He can pass the ball but his pass selection is often poor - the amount of "hospital passes" he throws... some of our bigger boys get criticised on here for lack of metres but when you're given the ball with three opposition defenders straight on you what do you expect?

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:36 am  

If ever there was a damning enditement of RS recruitment policy it's Matt Frawley. Chev said he dropped him last night so he could reset himself ahead of the new coach coming in.... goodness me. He's taking a quota spot too... can see him gone at season end.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:37 am  

Thought Eseh Jr was poor last night, Sangare would have been given the round of the kitchen for a similar performance

22 metres of 4 carries.