Re: Ablett Sinfield and McGuire : Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:44 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

Three good players...but in the short term would we not be better going LF - Ablett; SO - Sinfield ...and R.CENTRE - McGuire..

Feel sorry for Ablett continuously being played in the position he is not clearly up to. Sinfield can organise at SO and McGuire can inject some much needed pace out wide.
I like Hall but he too is too slow for a winger...let's get back Smithy back on right wing asap...and Donald on the left. PLEASE.
What happened to that winger we offloaded to Newcastle RU ? (Danny Williams ? ) Was that on loan...or a permanent move ?

What happened to our backing up ? Who told Burgess in particular to stop his off-loading ??

thts a good idea but how will mcguire cope in defence against the like of gleeson, gidley etc.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 pm  

darwoo11 wrote:

Ablett is far better in the 2nd row than at centre and McGuire certainly isnt a centre IMO

I agree on a longer term basis...but on the basis that Bluey continues to want to use all three players is it not better to have Ablett in the pack and somebody with pace in the centre position ?
I don't blame Ablett, but at least twice he was given space on the right wing against Salford and twice anybody with a modicum of pace would have had much more chance of making something of it.

Re: Ablett Sinfield and McGuire : Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:50 pm  

dawsie93 wrote:

thts a good idea but how will mcguire cope in defence against the like of gleeson, gidley etc.

I take your point...but are not both Gleeson and Gidley right centres (thus leaving them to Keith !! ) ?? As I said 'short-term'.

...and Ablett's main strength is hardly his tackling ability one on one against quality centres ...he's too easily wrongfooted.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:50 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

I agree on a longer term basis...but on the basis that Bluey continues to want to use all three players is it not better to have Ablett in the pack and somebody with pace in the centre position ?
I don't blame Ablett, but at least twice he was given space on the right wing against Salford and twice anybody with a modicum of pace would have had much more chance of making something of it.

although ablett is a 2nd row i dont think he has done a bad job at centre but cannot play there much longer

Re: Ablett Sinfield and McGuire : Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 pm  

[quote="nantwichexile"]Three good players...but in the short term would we not be better going LF - Ablett; SO - Sinfield ...and R.CENTRE - McGuire..

Feel sorry for Ablett continuously being played in the position he is not clearly up to. Sinfield can organise at SO and McGuire can inject some much needed pace out wide.
I like Hall but he too is too slow for a winger...let's get back Smithy back on right wing asap...and Donald on the left. PLEASE.



I agree. Certainly worth a try. You cannot say McGuire is not a Centre until he has had a go. IMO he has all the qualities to make a bigger impact than at 6. Sin is better cover for SO than we have for RC.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:58 pm  

I remember posts like this after we got beaten away at St Helens in the play offs.

I vote for Peacock to centre, Bailey on the wing and Lee Smith to prop, he's big enough you know.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:02 pm  

LEEDSLEADS. wrote:

I remember posts like this after we got beaten away at St Helens in the play offs.

I vote for Peacock to centre, Bailey on the wing and Lee Smith to prop, he's big enough you know.

To be treated with the contempt it deserves. So you really think Ablett is worth playing at centre...again ...and again....and again ? He's not a centre. McGuire could be...at least in the short term as I keep stating.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:05 pm  

We shouldn't be in the position where we are considering playing a Gb/England SO in the centre position!

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:07 pm  

The Joker® wrote:

Why not?...

Where do I start...

He doesn't run up with the ball with any real effort i.e runs but then stops when about to be tackled
He doesn't wrap them up quick enough when tackling
He's too slow to be playing out in the centre's
He doesn't have great ball-handling skills
He's not aggresive enough to be a second-row
He doesn't look to communicate with other players

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:10 pm  

EmmaMur01 wrote:

We shouldn't be in the position where we are considering playing a Gb/England SO in the centre position!

I totally agree....but for the sake of the team if it works in the short term then let's try it.
Ablett has stuck his neck out and played out of position time after time for the sake of the team, at the risk of losing his personal credibility.